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So if you hold a green card/passport holder and claim that your boss sexually assaulted. If they fail to prove it (which is always hard to prove even with evidence) they could denaturalize you since it is a "False Claim Act" violation.
Am I understanding this correctly?
No. You did not understand it correctly. I suggest reading the article. They're quite clear in what types of offenses could lead to denaturalization.
Elaborate.
Elaborate on how to read an article? I don't know what to tell you. You click the link, reject the cookies, and proceed to read the text.
The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.
The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who are involved “in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses … [and] naturalized criminals, gang members, or, indeed, any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the US”.
On 13 June, a judge ordered the revocation of the citizenship of Elliott Duke. Duke is a US military veteran originally from the UK who was convicted for distributing child sexual abuse material and had not disclosed the crime during the naturalization process.
Immigration attorneys are concerned that denaturalization cases via civil litigation strip some rights from the individual, including rights to an attorney as well as lowering the threshold of proof, and speeding up the denaturalization process.
Oh I thought you meant I didn't know how to read the memo the president released that had more detail. If you read that, it goes into the other ways to lose citizenship.
I assume, just like the president, you don't read the shit he signs.
No this is for people like myself who are Americans and can run for President but were born abroad. I was born in Mexico. Im white, not straight and Im terrified as I can now be made stateless.
Much worse than that - a naturalized citizen is a CITIZEN, not a resident. They can vote, have a passport, and everything.
Ah. And it all falls into place.
All that will be left once they get this established is to expand it a bit more, so that any citizen can be stripped of their cirizenship, and thus of their rights, and thus made subject to ICE's authority and legally shipped off to a foreign concentration camp
legally shipped off to a foreign concentration camp
I think you mean sold to the highest bidding foreign labour camp.
Yes. But legally.
Hmm, looks like slavery is back on the menu boys!
That's been the plan all along
What's taking everyone so long to figure that out? I had THAT figured in January. It's called a dictator.
Was everyone assuming he was working for US???
Yeah, because that's not at all fascist in the slightest...
We're in trouble guys.
You have guns and a 2nd amendment. Strap up! This is the exact reason millions upon millions of Americans viciously defend Line item number 2 in your constitution: To fight tyranny.
If you don’t, all those years of defending it will be all for naught.
Millions upon millions of Americans have not defended the 2nd on anti-tyranny grounds. Most of them just have a hobby and think their AR-15 will someday defend their innocent white wife from bands of dangerous minorities. The 2nd Amendment people who actually believe in violent revolution (or the threat thereof) as the backstop of democracy are a tiny minority. We'd need something like "well-regulated militias" for that.
Looks like you're Canadian. You might want to clean your own house right now before giving advice. You have right wingers already getting way too many votes.
Also, this:
The Peaceful LA Protests of June, 2025 worked. We're all talking about it now. If the LA protests weren't peaceful, we would have different talking points for this weekend's protests and protesters would have been killed. This administration wants this.
YSK - That there is a lot of trolling and brigading starting to happen around the LA peaceful protests to start violence. Here is a roadmap from 2015 on how they do it.: https://sh.itjust.works/post/39873361
Also, this:
Nonviolent protests are twice as likely to succeed as armed conflicts – and those engaging a threshold of 3.5% of the population have never failed to bring about change.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/apr/22/protest-trump-resistance-power
You’re not wrong on both points. I understand we have some issues here in Canada, but luckily we’ve mostly kicked the maple maga agenda to the curb, and even the previous conservative leader not only lost out on what would have been the easiest win in decades for a government party, he also lost his seat in the house and his riding.
Protests do work, but my entire life I kept hearing from everyone about the 2nd amendment and why Americans need to have guns for this type of shit.
They pointed to Canada and more recently Australia as to why taking away their guns is bad, yet here America is now: more guns than people, but afraid to use the 2nd amendment as it’s designed to be used.
Now that it’s here, the American pro 2nd amendment crowd is largely crickets.
Trump needs to go, but more and more people are going to stop attending protests with fear of police and ice agents nabbing and deporting them, so more and more your protests simply won’t work.
Protests while rare didn’t work in Nazi Germany either and they’ll slowly stop working in the U.S..
Put fear into people, and those people will be afraid to participate.
I hope I’m wrong.
Protests do work, but my entire life I kept hearing from everyone about the 2nd amendment and why Americans need to have guns for this type of shit.
They pointed to Canada and more recently Australia as to why taking away their guns is bad, yet here America is now: more guns than people, but afraid to use the 2nd amendment as it’s designed to be used.
The people saying these things are the right wing. There are liberal gun owners, but they usually see the nuance of the situations. Please don't treat us like a monolith. We have states that are like developing countries and education systems that are almost non-existent. And then we have other states that have the best schools in the world.
Very much so
Leave if you can
-- Undocumented immigrants are drug traffickers and violent criminals!
-- Any undocumented immigrant committed a crime just by being here! Deport them all!
-- Documented immigrants who espouse un-American views should have their status revoked and be deported!
-->Citizens who were from abroad, if we believe they went through naturalization improperly should be deported! (America is here)
-- Being born here shouldn't mean a free ticket to citizenship!
-- You don't deserve to have a US citizenship if you aren't on Team America!!!
The memo, published on 11 June, calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person’s United States citizenship if an individual either “illegally procured” naturalization or procured naturalization by “concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation”.
Ironically, this exactly describes Elon Musk's situation where he was misrepresenting that he was on a student visa while he was working on a startup. Which would be a willful misrepresentation and grounds to have his citizenship revoked.
It's also a blank check to selective enforcement when any material fact discrepancy can be investigated and used to target any recent immigrants.
Also Melania with her Einstein visa.
Yep, people all think that a criminal history means they did something bad like robbing a store or assaulting people. It's not, it could be that they were here illegally for 6 months before they became legal.
Elon Musk misrepresented his visa back in the day and was therefore technically illegal for a period, so at the very least he should get dropped in the emerald mines.
Can we start with the felon DT?
So, what happens to those people's status regarding their statehood? We can't force their prior country to re-instate their citizenship.
The Supreme Court ruled that they don't even need to send them to the prior country that they came from. So likely indefinite detention and trafficking paid for by the U.S. government until the headlines cease
They go to El Salvador or another holding location. Presumably to work.
How about no...when do we get out and just tell them no? They can run us over with tanks, drop bomb, etc. Its coming, just a matter of when the civil war starts, and who fires the first shot. If they dont want to participate faithfully in the United States, and give preferential treatment, withhold disaster aid funding, etc, then whats the point of being part of the Union?
These fuck heads think we'll just run scared with our tail between our legs, and thats not true. Nobody wins in a civil war, but thats what they're gonna get.
That is what needs to happen. Unfortunately the issue is that they start with messaging like this to make the vast majority of the country think they're safe.
Its only going to be 'certain citizens', who've committed 'certain crimes'.
So that most other citizens will sit quietly in the corner and hope to not call attention to themselves.
Meanwhile the scale and scope of who's counted as undesirable; who's going to be impacted, will continue to grow as their ability to process the 'undesirables' grows. This will go until the set of undesirables includes everyone not actively working for 'The Party'
That sounds like musk to me... Please deport musk
Yo my dudes, gonna do something at some point? Should be riots everywhere by now
Where do you live?
Paris, France
So you've taken part in Paris riots? Did anything you were a part of change to more your liking?
Dude. The French will protest for anything they don't like. Last year farmers were upset over grocery imports that drove them out of the market and so they blocked roads, railroads, poured shit outside of government buildings.
They figuratively wrote the book
Yes. Not on everything but at least we tried. Also we don't have an openly fascist régime or a convicted felon rapist as a president. Not saying we're good but at least we're trying.
Did you see that we had a 6 million people, peaceful protest? If those turned into riots, so many people would have been murdered by our government and "with justification." Riots are what the government wants. They're itching for reasons to take over democratic cities. We're different.
Y'all in deep shit yes. I don't see your democratic cities staying democratic long, from an external eye. Protests should have happened even before the election. That's just my comment.