And the coils grow ever tighter.
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"why don’t presidents fight the war, why do they always send the poor"
We also have WMD. WMD of course being an acronym for Weird, Megalomaniacal Dictator.
call me crazy, but I think the US has WMDs, they are not responsible enough to have them
Send in the Marines!
Tale as old as time.
didn't the UN find that they were enriching uranium past what was required for nuclear power, which indicates they're enriching it for nuclear weapons? To my knowledge this is the first time in something like 20 years that this has happened
to be clear, fuck israel for this escalation and their horrific genocide. There is no justification even if Iran had a fleet of WMDs.
I'm genuinely not sure how similar Iraq is to this
Were you too young for Iraq?
It was a bit different, Americans were baying for revenge after 9/11, but also many people were adamantly against going to war.
I think there was less evidence of any WMD, everyone knew it was bullshit, but someone had to pay for 9/11.
In this case, the USA doesn't really give a shit about Iran, nobody has a score to settle, but the killer is - and the thing I remember from last time - is that at the beginning everyone was like cut the bullshit - but as time went along the media convinced a majority it was a good idea.
The same will happen here, they just haven't had a chance to catch up yet.
What did Iraq have to do with 9/11?
Nothing except that it's in the middle east and is majority Muslim.
That's all the American public needed.
I was too young. I realize i'm probably splitting hairs. The differences b/w both situations feel large enough that lazily conflating the two feels incorrect, even though they are certainly similar enough to compare.
Trump is somehow a more stupid, meaner W. There's no 9/11 he can use to whip up nationalistic frenzy. Israel has aggressed first & is trying to drag the world into a conflict that's already hugely unpopular. Maybe I'm hoping Middle East War # gazillion evaporates as US interest does. I'm hoping this conflict is dissimilar enough from Iraq to turn out differently, and for us to have learned something in the interceding 20+ years
Yeah but so is North Korea. Plutonium, that is, not uranium, but still. Who cares? Could you imagine if South Korea just randomly started bombing their "nuclear engineers" + civilians and then US piped in?
No because Kim said nice words to Trump and wrote him a love letter.
Totally agree! This situation is unbelievably stupid
to be fair time is much older than Iran. But it is weird they've taken 40 years to develop a nuclear weapon when designs have been freely available online for over half that time.
The design isn't the issue, it's obtaining enough enriched material to actually construct it.
Every country who is anywhere close to a genocidal rogue state who explicitly stated they intend to do a Lebensraum and has attacked them unprovoked multiple times should have WMDs
Which country are we talking about now?
We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat
~ Donald Rumsfeld
They have weapons and we have the receipts to prove it!
- Rummy
Your family has two TVs? You must be rich.
Is there any country that doesn't have WMDs? Why is this even worth saying?
Mexico (we don't know how)
I mean.... Iraq didn't have them until we sold them the precursor chemicals to make them. What they were really upset about was that Saddam was supposed to use all those to kill Iranians and then the Kurds.
You do a guy a favour by helping him eliminate any of his dissonance and what do you get in return? The guy tries to invade Kuwait to pay off all the money he owes for invading Iran. When did empowering ruthless dictators to do your bidding get so complicated?
Probably some of the very smallest ones, like the Marshall Islands or something
That's what they want you to think
Monaco maybe? Oh wait no—they have many billionaires
What do you mean you've seen this one? It's brand new.
I mean, clearly it works for the people.
"people"
Are we sure?
Plot twist Trump pulled a Bush by mixing up their countries and Trump actually intended to invade Iraq this time but got it mixed up with Iran (so a reverse Bush? hsub?).
Nice idea, but that would have required Trump to plan. Maybe he just said the wrong country since after every public speach his aids give him a concussion so he can start fresh next time.
I got wracked in Iraq, so I ran to Iran