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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The Democrats are many many years overdue for a spine. But I still (perhaps naievely) want to believe that it's possible to win without going low.

Maybe I'm just crazy and need my tinfoil hat adjusted, but a race to the bottom still fucks us all over.

Holding people accountable for their actions isn't "going low". Holding people accountable for the knock on effects of their actions isn't "going low". Holding people accountable for their own previous statements isn't "going low". Callong out blatant lies and misdirection isn't "going low". Actually enforcing laws equally against people privileged financially and/or politically isn't "going low". Calling out blatant corruption isn't "going low".

We don't need the Democrats to start pushing candidates that are only following their own interests while wheeling out whatever their base wants to hear. We don't need Democrats cutting backroom deals with businesses that screw over their constituents. We don't need more toxic waste and diarrehia, just with blue food coloring.

I refuse to believe people actually want "Trump but saying leftist shit to appease people".

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 14 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

it's too late for any of this. fascists will continue to do whatever tf they want and face zero consequences, while everyone else continues to peacefully protest and accomplish nothing.

if anything actually changes in the next year, i'll be the first to come back and say i was wrong.

but we've been on this path for going on 10 years. nothing's going to change

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think maybe the only hope is that Trump dies, nobody has the charisma to replace him, and the right devours itself.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 21 hours ago

They'll figure something out. The right will rally around even losers like PP up in Canada if need be.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 11 points 22 hours ago

Shame used to work; it doesn't anymore. (Soap box.)

Voting used to work; it doesn't anymore. (Ballot box.)

The courts used to work; they don't anymore. (Jury box.)

You know what's next.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The democrats are not on our side they are just the lite beer version of the other guys

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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

We just had one of the largest protests (if not the largest) in the history of US protests. The people are making themselves known and the media covered it this time. Let's celebrate that.

Why We're Organizing No Kings Protests on Saturday--A king is only a king if we bow down

For the would-be dictator, success depends on projecting power and creating an aura of inevitability. They need you to believe that Trump is the new normal, that the MAGA movement will be in power for the long haul, that the only rational move is to go along, keep your head down, and protect your own interests.

In short, it requires a countless number of people in a countless number of places to do something that the Trump regime doesn’t want them to do, or to NOT do something the Trump regime wants them to do. That’s how we shake off the aura of inevitability and halt the autocratic breakthrough.

For that to happen, people need to feel like we’re part of something bigger. We need to understand that we’re part of a movement. We need to feel like we will win.

https://www.howwefightback.com/p/why-were-organizing-no-kings-protests

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[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 5 points 22 hours ago

But if we Make REPUBLICANS feel bad they MIGHT Lie to Their Supporters and TRY to KILL us! Again! For the Sixth time! This Decade!

[–] onesixone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 19 hours ago

Everyone needs to do their part. That includes you and me. Dont wait for others to step up, show responsibility by leading by example.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 1 points 23 hours ago

The moral high road is filled with corpses.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

There are no two major parties in the US .... it's all the same party

[–] Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world -1 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Why the fuck is one party treated differently then the other party?

If they are the fucking same they would advocate for same shit and vote alone the same lines... that doesn't fucking happen.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

The problem was the DNC running sham primaries...

Neoliberals just got voted out of DNC leadership. And Martin just got two neoliberl superdelegates who sat on the committee that had been influencing primaries to completely leave the DNC.

That is fucking huge. And everyone is just ignoring it, it even worse, acting like it's a bad thing.

The war over the Dem party is done. Neoliberals lost, Americans won.

[–] twice_hatch@midwest.social 0 points 20 hours ago

Also I urge people to vote

[–] ogmios@sh.itjust.works -2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

It's funny that I see this exact same argument repeated frequently, regardless of which political leanings the forums I'm reading take.

There are bad actors out there seeking to torment good people until they snap and actually internalize the idea that behaving poorly, deliberately, is a good idea. They don't care one bit what you believe, only that they don't like you and want you to hurt yourself.

Stay safe.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Watch CSPAN and read Congress.gov before criticizing the only people in our government trying to put a stop to this.

Democrats forced three 15-day votes against Trump’s executive orders, confirmed Biden’s pending judicial appointments when Republican attendance was low, publicly call out Trump’s overstepping of his powers and failure to uphold the Constitution, filed articles of impeachment against Trump, voted against deportations and tariffs, and are the ones bringing these cases to the courts. They DOA’d the only supermajority bills that the Republicans have introduced, including the SAVE Act, which would have disenfranchised married women and trans people from voting. They held four 24+ hour hearings, debating each provision of the reconciliation bill, line-by-line, just to get Republicans on record defending each position. They have repeatedly called for Hegseth and Gabbard to step down, to their faces in congressional hearings, for reasons of incompetence and conflict of interest, respectively.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 23 hours ago

It sounds a lot like OP want the DNC to shift right?

[–] RadicalEagle@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

“Growing a spine” is contradictory to “going low”.

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