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DS9 s2e26 The Jem'Hadar

The cop-out explanation from Memory Alpha:

Only one Vorta was demonstrated using telekinesis: Eris. As the DS9 writing staff put more thought into the Vorta following their initial appearance in "The Jem'Hadar", telekinesis was discarded and deemed a misstep that the writing team hoped viewers would forget. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion, p. 155) Ronald D. Moore stated, "Our internal rationale has been that Eris was given this ability for a specific purpose by the Founders (and maybe several other Vorta along with her) and that it is not a normal part of the Vorta 'recipe' in the Dominion." (AOL chat, 1998) However, on an earlier occasion, Moore stated that other Vorta "presumably" had the ability, but no situations in which it would manifest had come up. (AOL chat, 1998)

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[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 1 day ago

I love that the source is an AOL chat from 1998

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Tbh, I like the explanation that they genetically engineered it into that 'design' of Vorta, but not others.

We know the Founders are seen as gods to the Jem Hadar (not just to Vorta), and yet the Founders still chose to make them reliant on ketracel white, just in case they overcame that 'programming' and rebelled.

Seems completely logical that they'd also limit the Vorta's abilities in order to more easily curtail any future uprising too. Giving them all the ability to fire energy blasts could be something the Founders regretted later on.

It's also true that the Federation's first meeting with the Vorta was all orchestrated. It's possible the energy blast is something they purposely show off during first contact to other powers, to act as a show of force to them.

As for plot lines that went nowhere in DS9, does anybody remember that there was initially a rift between Jem Hadar created in the Gamma Quadrant and those created in the Alpha Quadrant? It was shown in that episode where the defiant shrunk, but then was never mentioned again. They were clearly gearing up for a civil war plotline, but it never came to be.

[–] delgato@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I love it, there’s always a plausible in-universe explanation for anything if a trekkie thinks hard enough.

[–] grozzle@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only Romulans from the Northern Province have strong V-shaped brow-ridges.

Only Klingons from the Northern Province have a claw coming out of the top of their feet.

Only Trill symbionts from the Northern Province can blend with humans and take over their body entirely.

Only Trill humanoids from the Northern Province have strong V-shaped brow-ridges and no spots.

Only Cardassians from the Northern Province grow moustaches.

Only Vorta from the Northern Province can do the energy-ball thing.

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Only telekinetic Vorta come from the Gamma Quadrant, otherwise they're just sparkling Vorta.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

“TASTE THE RAINBOW, CAPTAIN SISKO!”

[–] stupidopensourceBS@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I just figured it was disinformation.

[–] jrs100000@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Vorta were all genetically engineered anyway, and it would be make sense to customize them for the job they were assigned. I assume that Vorta agents had that power but commanders and politicians didnt. The Founders did go out of their way to ensure all their servants were excellent and their job, but terrible at everything else.

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Weyoun saying that his eyes were not so good was probably an intentional decision by the Founders for his position. He didn’t need to see that well, but he did need to strategize (and hear things).