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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Southern California has some of the best weather for bicycling in America. They should invest in bike infrastructure instead of catering to cars.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Okay but what if instead of that we subsidized safaris where you sit in the back of a convertible and shoot pedestrians as the driver takes you around?

Like, i pay my taxes for a reason.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] robocall@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

When you put it like that, what was I thinking!?

[–] btr_fan87@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I'm all for bike infrastructure but LA is already so wide and sprawling it seems like it would take herculean effort to make it cyclable at this point.

[–] something_random_tho@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I just want to ride a bike without constant fear of death. LA is statistically one of the most dangerous cities to ride a bike. I don’t care if it’s far—10 miles of sunshine and exercise and not dealing with bumper to bumper traffic sounds great to me, if I’m likely to arrive with my skull still in tact.

[–] btr_fan87@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You're right. Perfection is the enemy of better. Anything is better than nothing. I guess I just give up too easily.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 2 days ago

I dunno, man. I kinda agree with the first comment, even just to get it good enough would be a massive thing. That doesn't mean impossible and it shouldn't be tried, just... It does seem extra hard in a city that size that's already built poorly for cars.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's just a lot of green paint on the streets. No big deal.

[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Don't forget to paint the little man riding a bicycle too otherwise people won't know what the green paint is about

We need to kill so much car related bullshit here so, so badly. Every time an area gets more pedestrian friendly the NIMBYs shriek about the 12.5 seconds added to their commute in exchange for not living in the middle of a freeway.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Will that go with improving public transportation?

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

/Star wars meme

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

LA is in the middle of a program to do that.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Was. LA was in the middle of a program to do that. All the OT pay for cops helping ice has gotta come from somewhere.

[–] curiousPJ@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

No it definitely is in progress. Nandert on YouTube keeps somewhat frequent updates on the status of measure M initiatives.

They just opened the LAX rail line like last week.

Stop spreading BS. Thx

Okay cool. So before the pay period where the city and county pay the cops to riot?

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Protected bike lanes are key. I live in San Diego and can bike most anywhere, though protected bike lanes are only about 20% of the areas I ride. I put more miles on my bike than my car.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

That’s all fine and dandy, until all 200 units of the condo has occupants with multiple vehicles and now existing home owners have no place to park.

Gotta fix the underlying issues first. The bylaws exist for a reason usually.

That hardly seems a problem given the huge oversupply of parking. There is more than 3x parking spaces per vehicle in LA. Not to mention most of the existing SFH built under old code has a private parking space anyway.

no place to park

Okay, but, and here me out on this:

Fuck them, they can sell their cars and live like humans.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Parking requirements have already been removed for projects located within half a mile of major transit stops under the 2022 state law AB 2097. The new city council proposal could expand that policy to the entire city.

Sounds like this has already been in place for years in select areas without the apocalypse happening.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

And when an infill goes into an existing neighborhood? What happens to those homeowners. It’s also a matter of scale and time, how many projects have actually been built in those 3 years? Condos from planning to building usually takes 3-5 years from design to permits to building.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Do you think there’s a major transit stop every half mile in LA? Those are the only residences affected by this. Like, that would be nice if we did have that many, but that’s not the situation here. We’re already a fucking parking lot, we don’t need more parking spaces. We need housing and public transit.

Besi i can do is knocking down apartments to build single level parking lots.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And when it now applies blanket across the city…? What then?

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh, and what about when they hunt down anyone in a car by helicopter and blow them up? What then?

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The article, and your quoted part is literally about this situation happening. What are you going on about?

The new city council proposal could expand that policy to the entire city.