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Cross-posted from "Nina going off today" by @seahorse@midwest.social in !antifascism@midwest.social


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[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Something i have brought up before as an example is when i was in elementary school and high school, i was bullied very very badly. They would say horrific things and beat me up. This happened for almost 10 years. Everyone always told me "ignore them. Be the bigger person.", "if you hit them, you are just as bad.", "if you ignore them, they will stop.", "have you asked them to stop bullying you?".

Teachers would constantly make excuses and ignore the bullies. Because if they said something about it, the whole class would lie and say i did something to deserve it. I never did anything because i was terrified.

One day i got jumped again after school by one of them and i snapped. I beat the everliving fuck out of him. The last punch was straight to the throat and he struggled to breath.

Not a single person in the class bullied me ever again. Not a single word was said to me from that day on.

My point is that asking bullies and fascists nicely to stop, does not work. They are not playing according to the rules. We are currently "fighting" them with the assumption they have morals and will stop if we firmly tell them to. Did the protest annoy trump? 100%. Probably spend the entire night annoyed. Is he rethinking his fascist plans? Absolutely not.

I do think the protests are beautiful to see. So much solidarity and love. Its amazing to see with our own eyes that our side is MASSIVE. and that the right does not have nearly as much people as they pretend they do.

But i also know it won't change but. Trump is not going to leave. He will not stop advancing his fascist plans. ICE continues their gestapo bullshit. LGBT and womens rights continue to be taken away.

It's a beautiful morale boost. But sadly that is all it is.

Sorry for the rant. I do love seeing the protests and i really have so much respect for the people out on the streets. But i don't think much, if anything, will change.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago

But in condemning violence it would be an act of irresponsibility not to be as strong in condemning the conditions in our society that cause people to feel so angry that they have no alternative but to engage in riots. What we must see is that a riot is the language of the unheard.

What is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last 10 or 12 years. It's failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. It has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity.

  • MLK Jr
[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 56 points 5 days ago (13 children)

I hate being that cringe guy in the comments posting FD quotes, but this one is such a banger

Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress

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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Peaceful protest or "sitting it out" is when you have hope to last longer than the current crisis.

The current crisis, at least in the US, is not going to vanish that quickly. The real crisis is the dropping wages, and that's not gonna revert much. Socialism or barbarism!

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The moment the inconvenience of jail or ending up dying during an insurrection is better than the actual situation, shit is gonna spiral. People will riot violently, government is gonna fuck with the lives of folks who didn't, more will join, more will get fucked, and repeat until Donnie is no more.

The moment the inconvenience of jail or ending up dying during an insurrection is better than the actual situation, shit is gonna spiral.

That is a sentiment that i kinda hear many people say these days ...

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 92 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (5 children)

I was so, so very close to directly calling jordanlund a shitlib after it was almost certainly him who mod deleted my comment, in my own thread, in .world, stating that, speaking from a historical standpoint, the only thing that stops fascists is bullets in their brains.

He of course interpreted that as 'advocating violence', because ... he is a shitlib.

But instead, I composed myself and wrote a more eloquent explanation as to why my comment had been deleted... and, so far, at least that response hasn't been deleted.

Why not post to power tripping bastards?

Because we already know the .world mod/admin team is a bunch of shit lib collaborators from how they acted when Luigi was framed for shooting some asshole who murdered tens of thousands of people by overseeing the denial of their healthcare.

Sorry to rant but goddamnit am I on the exact same wavelength as this post right now.

Jordan, if you read this, go fuck yourself and keep telling yourself Warren was a better choice than Bernie, you slimy rat fuck.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Jordan probably is reading this, he loves scanning comments for people talking about him and then whining about it. Same for a few other common .world users.

But man, Jordan literally banned one of my favorite users from a community because they caught Jodan lying about his poitions and documenting the fact the Dems actively did not care about the lives of brown people home and abroad and queer folk.

.world is a shitlib encampment.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 41 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The .world shitlib community has absolutely lost its fucking mind. They were unironically sticking up for Elon musk again already a couple days ago. Fucking depressing.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"No you don't get it, if Musk funded Democrats he'd be tolerable! Ignore everything else, if he's blue he's good!"

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago (7 children)

They're kinda forgetting about the nazi salute.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Forgetting? Fuck, they'd been waiting for the opportunity to ride elon's botched plastic surgery dick since the instant he delivered that salute.

Do you... Do you really think they're forgetting?

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[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And musk is already crawling back to trump, making them look like even bigger fools for being so eager to sell us all out for the opportunity to work with a nazi.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is he? Seems like calling the president a pedophile would be a pretty burnt bridge

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I didn't say he was successful.

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[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

saying the only thing that stops fascists is bullets in their brains

So, first off, banning this as violence suggests stopping fascists is generally desirable; a position i don't think he shares.

Second: that's blatantly untrue. They're not, like, werewolves. Putting aside how that whole myth is an allegory for the abuse cycle and they kind of are. There's lots of places shooting them would work, depending on the bullet and availability of medical care. Plus, things other than bullets that worked. There's ectensive research by zukov et al suggesting it can be done with an artillery shell, and anecdotes from research in the pacific islands backing the 'sharp stick' hypothesis.

So maybe you're the real fascist.

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[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Jordan Lund describes himself as "the whitest guy you're going to know."

And despite his politics, he struggles to find sympathy or kinship with the Black Lives Matter marchers who occasionally disrupt his commute home to protest police violence.

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[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I used to defend JordanLund when people called him a Zionist

After his recent actions banning anti-zionist voices on WorldNews, banning Independent media that reports on the genocide, and banning pro-palestinian emancipatory slogans, it's overwhelmingly obvious he is at the very least a Zionist Sympathizer

He's also terribly reactionary on many social issues

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 40 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

well fucking said.

i never thought it would be so hard for libs to understand you can't vote fascism away. i never thought they would be rolling over to fascism so quickly.

what the fuck makes them not collaborators of this regime if they want to stop any sort of actual resistance.

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago (10 children)

The lib politicians did not roll over to facism, they rolled over for money ... for loosely regulated and barely looked at Super PAC donations and withdrawals. They rolled over for legalized corruption. Fascism is just the gift wrap that they had to take those presents in.

This lady is kind of right. We are not likely to vote our way out of this.

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[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

The only police reform we have seen in 15 years has been as the result of BLM violent protests.

Violent protest got you every single right you have.

It's historically the only way slaves and the poor have ever improved their lives.

Shut the fuck up

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago

Well yeah. It's possible for peaceful protests to work, but let's look at history. In reality, the pigs are going to get violent regardless of what anyone does, the national guard will be called out and they're going to use tear gas because their bosses want them to, and despite the fear of injury or death, large groups of people will keep working to make things better.

This is guaranteed to occur. For good or bad, whatever, it will happen. So let's stop worrying about certain outcomes and move our focus to the uncertain things.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 46 points 6 days ago

Finally, an accurate use for the term "shitlib"

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Absolutely right. Even Gavin Newsome is doing nothing but threatening to file a lawsuit. Buncha goddamn pussies. There is only ONE way to deal with Nazis and it isnt bEiNg pEaCeFuL

[–] mathemachristian@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What do you mean "even"? Gruesome Newsom is the shittiest lib of them all

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)
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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Shitlibs and policing activities they'll never engage in, name a more iconic duo.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

shitlibs and selling weapons for genocide.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Shitlibs and guilt tripping voters while being smug and wondering why no one likes them.

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[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 30 points 6 days ago

Fucking extremely this.

[–] Arkhive@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I had this exact convo with a friend recently. Peaceful protest can work against a government with a ~~conscious~~ conscience. The US gov’t has consistently shown to not have a ~~conscious~~ conscience. My local organizers don’t really seem to get this, which just means they, and many of the general citizens they direct, will be underprepared for the conflict that will almost inevitably arise.

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[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Fight before your not able to

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 27 points 6 days ago

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

God I love Nina, happy to see others are aware of her style.

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