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[–] Omega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

However, there were no stalls—only urinals, rendering it inaccessible to him as a trans man.

This just in, cisgender men don't shit. If you believe to be a cisgender man and actually do need to shit, you may want to consult the nearest gender practician and/or trans association because you might be in serious need of estrogen. I mean, that's how I found out, I think most transfems can attest to this.

Seriously though, where is a man supposed to shit? In the urinals? I mean, it wouldn't be the first time I see it, but... what the fuck?

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You just shit in the urinal like normal?

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 5 points 6 days ago

I would shit in the urinal like normal

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

After a lengthy drive to the bar, Strobel said he stepped inside to use the men’s room. However, there were no stalls—only urinals, rendering it inaccessible to him as a trans man.

At first, an employee warned both Strobel and his friend against entering the bathroom of the “opposite” sex, but after a brief back-and-forth, Strobel said he believed he had permission to do so. He also said he and Frady were the only two people in the restroom, which Frady confirmed to Erin in the Morning.

That’s when a man who said he was the bar owner burst into the women’s room, peering over the stall to look at Strobel as he used the restroom.

He said the owner and employee ejected him and his friend from the bar—grabbing and pushing them out as they reportedly called Strobel anti-trans slurs. The police were waiting at the door, Strobel said.

The officer cuffed him “so tight that I can't even feel my fingers,” Strobel said. “I still have a bruise on my knuckle.” Meanwhile, his arresting officer allegedly kept calling him a “little girl.”

In a follow-up video, Strobel said he was released on $500 bond, hit with a trespass notice barring him from entering Sand Dollar Social Club, and issued a ticket for public intoxication and disorderly conduct. Frady said she received the same.

In an interview with Erin in the Morning, Strobel emphasized that he had not consumed a single drink—he was there for the sole purpose of being the designated driver. He says officers did not breathalyze him.

There is no state law in South Carolina preventing a trans man (or any man) from using the women’s room in public accommodations, such as a bar.

So, let's see if I understand this:

  • the bar owner warns the trans man to not use the bathroom of the "opposite sex"
  • the trans man goes into the men's restroom but there were no stalls, so he went into the women's restroom ~~believing he had~~ after being given explicit permission to do so
  • some dude (maybe the owner?) barges into the women's restroom and starts peering over each stall and finds the trans man and looks at him naked and then panics and starts calling the trans man a man and calls the cops while physically ejecting the trans man
  • the trans man is called anti-trans slurs and the police refer to him as a "little girl"
  • he is given a charge of public intoxication despite never having a drink

It sounds like they thought the trans man was a trans woman, tbh. The stupidity and cluelessness is astounding.

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They definitely need to take that to court. Cops have no evidence of drinking to back up that charge if they weren't drinking. Get the charges dropped then sue for false arrest. Profit, then live well.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago

assuming you can afford a good lawyer, survive with those legal costs in the meantime, and get lucky with a reasonable judge - a lot of ifs, a lot of cracks people fall through

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

he is given a charge of public intoxication despite never having a drink

and not being in public.

[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 6 days ago

public intoxication laws still apply when in a bar, generally being in a bar counts as "public", but honestly a lawyer would have to look at the jurisdiction and the specific laws that apply (and whether the bar counts as public or not) - but either way, it's irrelevant if he was sober ...

[–] WIREID91LDNON@mstdn.social 5 points 5 days ago

@Sunshine

This was basically inevitable. It's like these anti-trans legislators refuse to admit that trans men exist as well.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 104 points 1 week ago (2 children)

After a lengthy drive to the bar, Strobel said he stepped inside to use the men’s room. However, there were no stalls—only urinals, rendering it inaccessible to him as a trans man.

Wtf. What if someone suddenly gets the shits?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 86 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was wondering the same thing. I get that most restroom uses at a bar are going to be pissing, and thus urinals are good enough but someone will need to take a shit.

Actually now that I think about it... There's no way that restroom could be ADA compliant without at least one handicapped stall.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago

Never mind the ADA; it shouldn't even pass normal building code.

[–] rbn@sopuli.xyz 31 points 1 week ago

Poop in the urinals as god intended, obviously.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Quite remarkable that this wasn't even in a state with any kind of bathroom ban. Curious to see what happens if this goes to court.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago
[–] lemmus@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the new reality in the UK also after the recent Supreme Court ruling.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

According to the article, there is no law on the books in south carolina against this.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ah yes, that bastion of the union, the shining light of human rights, spreading love, peace, prosperity, and enlightenment to all.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Not sure what your point is

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

South Carolina is in the south. Where racism, religious fervor, and conservative bullshit is rampant.

The victim in the article is probably lucky all that happened is his wrist and finger were bruised.

He’s resisting money to relocate, which is prudent I think.

[–] growsomethinggood@reddthat.com 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Feels a little victim-blamey to basically say "what did he expect, living there". Trans people are everywhere, by definition. He deserves better than this.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 6 days ago

He does deserve better. Plenty of people in oppressive societies do. I was noting the environment, anything else was what people choose to read into it.

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

There's also a lot of resistance and genuine care and love in the south (even historically), not everybody there is a bigot or just puts up with said bigotry.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

that is what I was getting at -- this can all be the case in place with no such law on the books. It's not necessarily worse in the UK.

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

No? There's no law saying that it's illegal. There's guidance from those cowards and worthless organisation EHRC, but there's no actual laws.

They want us to be afraid, don't let them. Join together as a community and get rid of the police, show them we won't be shamed or scared into being removed from public life or the bathroom we need to.