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[-] cleoburymortimer@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

lol india literally had a war of independence for centuries against the british which was what made the "non-violent" national liberation movement able to take the W. this reduction of the entire history of anti-colonial struggle in india to "gandhi led the salt march and the british decided to let india go :)" is really disgusting. of course, when it's white christians resisting oppression (as in Ireland), then it's justified in this moron's view.

[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I must confess I perhaps may be a little baby with no understanding of the world... but I will keep tweeting my dumbass opinions as that is the only thing that makes me feel like I have any sort of connection to other human beings

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I've been pretty open about being a dumb fuck but these people make me feel like Einstein

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

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Justin Schlosberg (@jrschlosberg): Virtually all human history of violent resistance to violent oppression - with the possible exception of Northern Ireland in the 20th century - is a history of abject failure.

Its why leaders like MLK and Gandhi deplored it and Malcolm X and Mandela abandoned it.

Dog Pope (@Dog__Pope): Haiti, Angola, South Africa, Cuba, Vietnam, I could genuinely go on.

Justin: I must confess I perhaps don't possess the breadth of historical knowledge to justify that rather sweeping statement.. but I don't believe it was the armed struggle that defeated apartheid in South Africa..

Dog Pope: Maybe actually read some history before making such declarations. It's genuinely very unhelpful.

Justin: Thanks Dog. And remember it's OK to express a difference of opinion without resorting to personalised attacks. I recommend trying it some time.

Dog Pope: No, you don't as a supposed intellectual get to proclaim a strong opinion on something you clearly had no idea about, the amount of shit I had to read yesterday from people paid to be wise has made me even more cynical, which I didn't even know was possible.

Dog Pope: It's ahistorical, lazy and honestly you've now made people question your rigor on more than history questionable. How is anyone supposed to trust what your write when you haven't even got a basic grasp on modern history?

[-] space_comrade@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

Oh my god I hate these kinds of dickwipes.

"Uh ok I guess you have a point but do you have to be so mean about it?" Fuck right off you dweeb.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

If you can't make your point without resorting to insincere sarcasm, then you never had a point to begin with.

some loser from the startrek.website after i corrected them via a fact and with some added sarcasm marx-ok

it's just "I cant refute you, so I'll attack you instead of your argument." debate sophistry that they apparentely hate so much edgeworth-shrug

[-] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Just say they're doing a heckin ad hominemarino and watch their head explode.

[-] Civility@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago
[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

If infuriation could be weaponised I swear it would be over for all these "ah well, nevertheless" fucks.

President Xi please spend all your research and development budget on emotionally powered psychic weapons.

[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look, they were talking about the cracker countries; you know the ones that are valid under us-foreign-policy

[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Dudes a knobhead but I do think people are generally too quick to analogize anti-colonial struggles and anti-settler colonial struggles. It's a lot easier to get the French to fuck out of Algeria, because they can go back to France.

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

The French also got the French out of France.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I know why they think N Ireland is the exception us-foreign-policy

But without that, how would you justify that as the only violent struggle that worked? They didn't achieve a united Ireland. No offence to the IRA or Sinn Fein obviously, but the Good Friday Agreement wasn't considered a resounding victory in my recollection, and led to the Real IRA splinter group.

All of human history and that's the one time violent struggle against oppression worked? Assuming their American they can't even remember their own bourgeois rebellion?

[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I mean, how did this guy miss the American, Russian, Chinese, and French Revolutions? I'm genuinely in awe of the blinders.

[-] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

American

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Russian

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Chinese

voted so hard

French

wouldnt you believe it i-voted

[-] MorelaakIsBack@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

hot take: if you've used the fragment ", but" then you are in the process of fucking up and should log out for the day

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