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Justice Secretary Shabana Mahmood said so-called chemical castration would be used in 20 prisons in two regions and that she was considering making it mandatory.

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[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 25 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah terf island is definitely gonna be fair judge of this /s

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 16 hours ago

It's pretty clear what is the true aim, creating oppression feedback loop against trans people.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Alright here's a fucked up take.

At least a few people that are asexual get created by the nonce drugs.

They don't even have to ID as ace, the right could just define everyone in that 60% as asexual and play on people having no idea what asexuality really is.

The right then uses that designation of people as asexual to propagandise that LGBT people are nonces and support MAP.

[–] machiabelly@hexbear.net 75 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

soooooooo this is going to be used on trans women isn't it.

ALSO! castration doesn't fucking work because sexual violence has nothing to do with desire!

ukkk

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

No it isn't.

They're going to fuck with trans people, but the drugs used are also drugs used by trans people in some instances as part of hormone treatment or as puberty blockers. They're going to deny trans people something they are pressuring cis people to take. (There are other drugs involved in transitioning, but they're also going to deny trans people those while giving them to cis people)

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 1 points 9 hours ago

UK creating a state-run Dorley Hall from first principles

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 29 points 20 hours ago

This appears to be a british program that cites the Danish program in herstedvester, which uses Androcur and Procren (Zoladex), but other Grnh modulators are also in talk probably.

Which essentially means the only way to get HRT expedited in terfland is to be a pedophile, and it's probably gonna be the only way to get puberty blockers period.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 86 points 1 day ago

Are they starting with Prince Andrew?

[–] brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

alleviate the pressures on the prison system, which is running out of space.

Ya know, one way to help alleviate the issue with having too many prisoners, is to reevaluate whether so many crimes should send people there.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 59 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The prison population in England and Wales has doubled over the past 30 years or so to nearly 90,000. That’s despite a fall in crime rates and is driven in part by the fact that longer sentences are being handed out amid pressure to be tough on crime.

brow

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

here ye here ye, we bring to account, this assembly, wherein we demand of ourselves stricter corrections on outlawed behaviors, and must submit to these pressures which we put upon ourselves

*raucous stomping and chattering among the wigged crackers*

[–] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

This policy isn't going to significantly reduce overcrowding.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 14 points 19 hours ago

I did not suggest it will. I posted a depressing figure that demonstrates the problem is policing and sentencing. There would currently be half the number of people in prison if we simply had the same sentencing and policing culture that existed 30 years ago. This shows how much the cultural attitude has slipped rightwards in the UK over the last 30 years.

No, the most they can do is slavery or corporal punishment. Or both.

[–] mj_803@lemm.ee 73 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Didnt they do this to Alan Turing?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 hours ago

By "roll out" they mean just doing the same disgusting shit that they've been doing for centuries.

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 76 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He was charged with gross indecency (a sexual crime in our parlance) due to his homosexuality, on the mere fact of his homosexuality not a different act. He underwent chemical castration.

TERF island, the way it's going, I suspect may criminalize being trans - maybe in limited circumstances at first, like being trans and a teacher of young children then widening - and transgender people will be charged with sexual crimes and therefore be subject to chemical castration

[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 41 points 23 hours ago

Exactly what I came here to say. This will 100% be used against trans people.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

They sure did

[–] menixator@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Soo I'm not discussing the ethics of it here but what if the offender gets exonerated? Free pass to sue for millions + more millions because they were wrongfully incarcerated?

[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 7 points 19 hours ago

Just sew it back on, I'm sure it'll buff out

/s

[–] menixator@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Another hypothetical but ( probably very) unlikely scenario: if two people were cahoots and one accuses the other, and the other was willing to go through with the chemical castration, and manage to prove it in court, and then the alleged offender gets exonerated ( be it with prepared evidence or the accuser admitting they mistakenly identified them ), isn't the UK just doing a bankruptcy speedrun?

Given the stage of capitalism we're in, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people did this. Or at least attempt it regardless of how stupid it is? People have done riskier, stupider, and more convoluted things for a LOT less. If that happens en masse, actual victims get less attention and sex crimes start getting taken less seriously.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 41 points 23 hours ago

hey this isn't the fake news comm

oh.... agony-deep

Jesus Christ sink this fucking island into the sea

[–] insurgentrat@hexbear.net 23 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Can you believe that in the past people used to use corporal punishment? So much more civilised to force people to ingest drugs that change their body, mind, and possibily even identity that have historically resulted in suicides at times.

edit: at this stags it seems voluntary. If course in the legal system/healthcare many voluntary things are 'voluntary'.

[–] CrookedSerpent@hexbear.net 20 points 21 hours ago

I had to pay good money for my analog castration, and they are just handing that out for free to criminals over there??!!!!? Smh my head 😤

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 28 points 23 hours ago
[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 1 day ago

red tories being worse than the blue tories

[–] josefo@leminal.space 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

What chemical castration is? I don't want to Google it and find something gross

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Using hormones to disable sexual function in males

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 18 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Absolutely not. You can still get a boner on the drugs used, a lot of trans women still have penetrative intercourse as tops and/or enjoy sex while being on a similar stack (Although with added female sex hormones)

The theory of chemical castration is that removing testosterone makes you less likely to commit sexual assault, this is backed by an observed lower recidivism rate among people willing to undergo chemical castration and nothing else.

It's giving a man "menopause". Its shitty.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 8 points 17 hours ago
[–] josefo@leminal.space 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Like in preventing erections or something else? It's permanent?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

No to both. Although there can be permanent side effects (But that's true for any hormone medication taken over longer periods)

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or you could just do everyone a favor and shoot them

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 25 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

Do you trust the British justice system to only convict guilty people 100% of the time?

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