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[–] Joostringoot@feddit.nl 6 points 44 minutes ago

That's why we need a democratic economy. Distribute the power over the means of production.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 36 minutes ago

I hope this guy spends some of his now ample free time relentlessly reposting this all over the place.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 20 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

That's the whole point of having a contract. You don't quit your old job until you have a signed new contract for the new one. I understand that many Americans don't believe in this basic concept, but it's common in many countries around the world.

[–] Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Unfortunately many employment agreements in the US are "at will" meaning either party can terminate it immediately at will. In states where this is legal (almost all of them), you'd be hard-pressed to find any company willing to do it any other way.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 21 minutes ago

Right? What is this "Employment Contract" you speak of? I just got told "You start this day, good luck fucker."

[–] modeler@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

And the fun thing of 'fired at will' is that it is enshrined in so-called 'Right to Work' laws. The evil would be hilarious is it wasn't so horrible.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 51 minutes ago

Yea there tends to be a disconnect at the “right to be fired” part.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is that different from signing the offer?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 21 minutes ago

They usually don't even give you anything to sign

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

> applies to join an evil company
> is surprised when gets evil done on them

[–] kadup@lemmy.world 35 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Why do

LinkedIn users write their essays

In this format? Many other platforms

Have the same limitations for character count

Or even lack of rich text formatting

Yet people don't write like this.

Where did this

Culture come from?

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 19 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Most business people are too stupid to handle paragraphs with more than 2-3 sentences. I'm not joking; I literally have to write emails like this if I want them read.

[–] Event_Horizon@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Side rant here. I'm working on a project for a new application, after a couple months work I finalised the 150ish requirements, however before approval could be given to approach businesses I had to fo some internal box ticking.

I organised this technical meeting with the IT guys to run through all the requirements, tick and flick that everything was fine. It was a 3 hour meeting that I had book 7 weeks in advance to ensure everyone could attend.

3 weeks before the scheduled date a general manager insists on attending and self-invites. The moment the meeting starts the GM immediately says "they don't want to read all these requirements" and "don't you have a presentation?" Followed by "where are the pictures?".

The entire meeting basically derailed there and we only made it through maybe 50% of what we needed with zero ticking or flicking. That was 3 weeks ago, the project has almost stalled now and I'm still trying to recover the time/progress/momentum I had.

Fucking managers and their demands to be included and flat out refusal to read.

[–] Newsteinleo@infosec.pub 2 points 1 hour ago

Functional illiteracy is a thing, pretty sure my last boss fell into this category. Everything had to be a meeting, couldnt do work by email or chat. He had to review and approve my reports, and they would sit for months. I think there was a nine month back log when I left.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Holy crapoli, the memories this triggers. Suffice to say I am soooooo glad to be retired.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure...

You're not gonna believe this but...

I think it all came from web marketing guru funnel-builder-ebook-masterclass-mentor-course types.

And it circlejerked with business types to capitalize on shorter and shorter attention spans.

I was like you. I was a normal guy. And one day I decided to take a guess at where this irritating "writing style" came from...and why it was EVERYWHERE...

...and you won't believe what I came up with (Or maybe you will, because you're ultra smart, I can tell just by the way you're reading this, you're not like everyone else, you're special, click the button at the end of this really long pointless babbling)...I think it's because...

People scroll, and short little paragraphs keep you reading.

In bite-sized little chunks. So you keep scrolling and scrolling waiting for it to get to the point....

...so what are you waiting for? Lame call to action by clicking the button below to get added to my email spam list and an empty ghost town "Master Life Changer" Discord / web forum! Filled to the gills with...

...obvious filler nonsense...for 900 days absolutely risk free...

...I wouldn't bet my couch and my sister's angry little chihuahua if I wasn't 100% serious about the value in these stupid paragraphs...

...and one day you too can have a Lambo too. You deserve it.

Still not convinced?? That's understandable. This can continue saying the same gibberish 18 different ways...

...until you've read so far clicking the button is basically sunk cost fallacy at this point...


...Ugh that made me physically sick writing like that even as a joke LOL.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

I guess it works too, I just read that.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I hope it was at least satirically entertaining and perhaps a touch cathartic! XD

I'm sure you've also shared that same experience I have, where you ended up scrolling and scrolling those stupid websites to see what their deal was, even though you knew it was 100% nonsense lol.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Assholes thinking their garbage thoughts are poetry

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

Not too lazy to make it readable

[–] Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml 30 points 5 hours ago

The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you. The company doesn't care about you.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 33 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

This is why you don't plan your life around a job. Plan your job around your life.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 34 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

That sounds like a very privileged mindset to me. Most of us don't have the resources to have that luxury.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 1 points 27 minutes ago

Care to explain why you would think only the privileged are the ones who tend not to put the cart before the horse?

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

Never had privilege; I've just been fortunate enough to have an emergency fund. Took me over a decade to save enough, but I have enough now that I could go 3 months without a job.

[–] SupaTuba@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago

I finally made it to a place in life where I'd rather be where I am and homeless than leave for some job

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

This is the shit I'm worried about when family members tell me I should expand and keep my mind open to moving somewhere to chase a job. I don't have the resiliency to survive a failure like this.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 47 points 8 hours ago (7 children)

I don't want to kick the original author while they're down, but PayPal is a known shit company, and has been almost from the start. It's closely related to the leopards-ate-my-face phenomenon — if you're willing to work for a shit company, expect shit.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Not everybody has all the information to know whether a company is known for this kind of shit. I've heard a lot of stories about PayPal screwing over sellers in particular by freezing their funds for no justified reason, but I can see people falling for the "they must have been doing something bad they aren't admitting" you always see in response to anyone complaining about some authority imposing arbitrary punishments on them.

My personal gripe with PayPal is, I was once relying on income from sales through them, and had withdrawn money to my bank that I needed to pay my rent. A customer filed a spurious dispute (later resolved in my favor) on a sale that was only a tiny portion of that, and their response was to immediately reverse the whole completed bank transfer. So I almost missed paying rent and had to scramble to figure it out at the last minute.

Anyway, fuck PayPal, sympathy to all their victims.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Anyone applying to PayPal can google it before they accept an offer.

[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 minutes ago

When people get scammed, it's not their fault just because there are conceivable ways they could have learned it was a scam.

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[–] andybytes@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

Now that's capitalism... Seems like the tech bros got the homefield Advantage, since you know, they own the means of computing..

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 37 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

From my layman's perspective it sounds like this should net him some compensation under promissory estoppel

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That was the very first thing I thought of. For the unaware, promissory estoppel is when party A is damaged by party B promising something, then later rescinding it. It is something you can file a lawsuit over.

For instance, maybe someone says “I’ll buy you a brand new Maserati if you drive your current car off a bridge.” You know they can afford the car, and a reasonable person would believe this promise. So you shake on it, and proceed to dump your car over the side of the bridge. Then that person laughs and goes “yeah, I changed my mind. I’m not buying you a Maserati.” Now you have been damaged because of an action you took due to their promise. You can sue them, to force them to fulfill their side of the promise, or at least to make you whole again.

In the screenshot’s case, it sounds like he made some major financial investments in this job. He moved to a new location, turned down other job offers, etc… He could sue PayPal to force them to repay the costs that he incurred as a result of their rescinded job offer.

The only reason employers still do shit like this is because individuals either don’t realize that they can sue for it, or don’t realize that lawyers will take their case.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The only reason employers still do shit like this is because individuals either don’t realize that they can sue for it, or don’t realize that lawyers will take their case.

Is this one of those instances where the corporation can/will do stuff like deploy their lawyer army to tie up the victim and wait them out with expensive and time-wasting legal process...before offering them a $50 gift card to shut up and hold the company eternally blameless forevermore?

[–] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Not a lawyer, but the usual explanation is that these contracts are “at will” and the contract includes language indicating it can be terminated by either party for any reason at any time.

Again, not a lawyer and I agree this is terrible behavior. However, this is why some people say you should never give notice until you’ve literally started your new job.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 10 hours ago (7 children)

People have been falling for the lies of big tech companies for too long. We desperately need unions, and those unions need to push back on these kinds of ineffectual, time-wasting hiring processes.

Look at this asshole though. The image cuts off right when he's starting into the mealy-mouthed hustle culture part of the linkedin post. Gotta show that you, special magical you, are the one developer who doesn't mind the exploitation. You stay positive and give 110% to everything, even when they're fucking you over.

There's always a stupid as shit hustle bro willing to scab and do the work, they can vibe code through it I guess. If this god forsaken industry had any solidarity at all, then no tech company you've ever heard of would be able to hire a single person any more.

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[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Reminds me of McRaven's commencement address... Sometimes, no matter how much you try, you still end up a sugar cookie.

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