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Baldur's Gate 3

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Baldur’s Gate 3 is a story-rich, party-based RPG set in the universe of Dungeons & Dragons, where your choices shape a tale of fellowship and betrayal, survival and sacrifice, and the lure of absolute power. (Website)

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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So stealth archer wins again?

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 51 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's really useful for act 1 at least, where most casters have one spell, and it's called "miss".

[–] CoderKat@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Casters often feel at a massive disadvantage for casual fights. For a boss fight, casters are often the strongest, since you'll blow all your spell slots. But for smaller fights, you want to preserve your spell slots and cantrips simply cannot keep up with martials. I mean, a single attack roll for a spell cantrip vs getting 2-3 attack roles that also do more damage total? Heck, my strongest martials can usually do at least double the damage of a spell caster's cantrips.

Though at the same time, when I can blow the spell slot, no martial can outdo the AoE damage of reliable ol' fireball or the likes. Just I can't justify using my spell slots on a small number of weak enemies.

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

BG3 saves the day for low level casters by making rest and spell prep such a non-issue. Use it all. Rest rest and rest.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I agree with this mostly but I've got to add, I'll give up a spell slot for magic missile on a few low hp enemies any day of the week. Being able to get 3 guaranteed kills if your enemies are low enough hp and spread out is actually really nice.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I’ve started to use my spells more and then resting more because you actually need to sleep to progress some story lines. I don’t think I did that enough for Act 1 and most of Act 2.

Also my gf and melee tanks many times also needed a full rest and I still had most of my spells slots so that wasn’t fun.

Though I might need to amp the difficulty a bit.

[–] Ryumast3r@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Imagine not blowing your fireballs and lightnings against level 1 mice when you're level 10 and making your fighters regret running in headfirst.

[–] btmoo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That’s the ideal scenario, but really, camp supplies are so abundant in this game that it just doesn’t play out that way.

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[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Odo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Relatable, but we really need a more elegant solution to vertical vs horizontal videos. I just measured, and that little square of video only used 15% of my screen.

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[–] guylacaptivite@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Surprised monk rogue is so low. It's been the most brutal dps build I've experienced so far. Three levels of rogue with thief for bonus actions and two levels of fighter for action surge ( always use two levels of fighter almost every time) is devastating. My strenght build monk puts out twice the amount of damage my ranger does, hits 100%of the time and doesn't need any form of advantage apart from melee range. First turn usually means 8 attacks dealing 30+ damage each with the appropriate bonuses. That's over 240 on first turn then +/-180 for at least the nex two turns if you don't channel ki. Casual numbers right.

Edit: yeas it also needs tavern brawler which is a broken feat afaic.

[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I just saw a video on this, apparently if you skip fighter and put 9 into Monk you get AoE attacks instead which can be favourable to Action Surge

[–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How long do you play at lvl12 though, really? Genuinely curious, since I haven't beaten the game yet (barely in act 2)

[–] teft@startrek.website 7 points 2 years ago

You hit level 12 with probably 15-30 hours left depending how you run act 3.

[–] Blaiz0r@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't know for sure, but I've heard some criticism that the level cap was too soon, but necessary for gameplay/roleplay reasons

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They have the level cap at 12 which is much lower than the usual DnD cap of 20, but I thought it was well paced. The reason they stopped at 12 was because high lvl DnD exponentially gets more and more ridiculous.

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[–] DaBlop87@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

So we are back to stealthy archer?

No matter the game, all roads lead back to it.

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[–] xeekei@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I do sorcerer/ranger. No, I don't know what I'm doing. I just wanted dragon scales in my face. This is my first CRPG experience.

[–] healer_56@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

wow i am so extremely surprised not to see Monk on the list at all as a mainclass. Its such a crazy strong class, dont understand why nobody plays it.

[–] voidavoid@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Might be because anyone coming from 5e has probably been disappointed with monk before.

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[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Should I be multiclassing Astarion?

[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thanks to Withers and saves, you can fuck around and find out what suits your play the best!

Edit/sidenote: I'm never gonna finish this game 🙃

[–] Leshoyadut@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

If you’re finding that he’s doing fine in combat, then don’t worry about it. If you want him to do more, then multiclassing can improve that if you know what you want from the multiclass combo.

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[–] troglodytis@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The main issue with Spore is that it's a conditional damage increase that is dependent on Temp HP. This makes it reliant on player knowledge of 5e's Temp HP mechanics and sources.

Compare that with Fighter and Thief multis and you see why it isn't taken by those without in-depth knowlege of 5e and BG3's implementation.

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[–] teft@startrek.website 4 points 2 years ago

Sad that BarBearians didn’t make the cut.

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

I did 12 monk originally, but just swapped to 9 monk 3 rogue since it's basically the same thing just losing like a single feat. But I gain an extra bonus action and some other nice passives instead.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 years ago

Warlock/Cleric or nothing <3

[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Is there much of a fundamental difference between which class you start you multiclass on? Or is the Ranger-Rogue vs Rogue-Ranger disparity solely about point allocation?

[–] aesopjah@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it changes your skill proficiency choices?

[–] Button777777@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah i think thats right. If i went level 1 barb, then a level in fighter, then i wouldnt get heavy armor profiency, but reversed i would. (Just an example, not sure why a barb would really want heavy armor prof as it prevents rage bonuses i think)

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 years ago

Saves, starting skill proficiencies, and weapon/armor proficiencies in most cases. Some classes get those as special features though, such as heavy armor and martial weapons for war clerics, which complicates the rule.

[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I cant wait to join this group after I'm finished with the campaign. It's been hard to find time to finish it and not being able to watch any videos or read literally anything about the game is driving me crazy at this point. I haven't had this much enjoyment playing a game in a long time. What a masterpiece it's been.

[–] Artaca 2 points 2 years ago

That's the exact reason my friends and I decided we'd all do an initial run through solo before doing a group campaign. It took us years to finish DOS2, I imagine BG3 will be similar.

[–] JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The pinned discussion points are spoiler free FYI

[–] Crow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I am surprised there’s no warlock bard.

[–] Jocarnail@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I'm going for a bard/warlock and right now i'm doing pretty fine. Though i'm still only in act 1.

Actually surprised not to dind more bard multiclass.

[–] darth_helmet@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait, why does warlock’s extra attack stack with other source of extra attack? It isn’t meant to do that, and is almost a complete upgrade over fighter 6-10/ pretty much any martial’s tier 2 levels.

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