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A 12-year-old girl who suffered a lung collapse and spent four days in an induced coma has told the BBC that children should never start vaping.

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[-] FellowEarthling@lemmy.world 110 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

She had asthma and wasnt using her inhaler. Kids shouldn't be vaping, but there was more going on here.

[-] PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I had to check to see this was an onion article. There has to be so much more going on here.

[-] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

Man, this destroys my argument that all 12 year olds should vape. Boy do I feel silly.

[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Fortunately the 13 year olds are good to vape

[-] Declamatie@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, the minimum age for vaping should be increased to ∞.

[-] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't like it so i don't want other independent adults to do it. I want everyone to want and do the same things i do all the time ! >:(

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Right but there's some middle ground between no regulation at, and a total ban

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[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@lemmy.ml 58 points 1 year ago

"Sarah's asthma and the fact she was not good at using her preventative inhaler left her at risk of complications."

Ahh, there's the problem

[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I think the main problem was she was just buying them from a store for 3 years.

[-] byroon@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is awful and I'm very sorry for the kid but with the greatest respect who gives a fuck what this 12 year old thinks

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[-] Papiermache@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Yeah fuck allowing children to vape but this is clearly a case of poor compliance asthma management and shit parents. Obviously some larger governmental intervention will help but the story is garbage.

Note: you can potentially ignore everything I said because I only read two paragraphs of the article and just looked at the photos of the shitty mom and kid

[-] rustyfish@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

What a clickbaity bs article.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Y'all really like your vapes, huh? Jesus fucking Christ with so many of these comments... I smoke, too, but I don't defend tobacco.

[-] Zeroc00l@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago

Dude I see your username in every comment section of every post I click on. Over 4.5k comments in 3 months! That's impressive

[-] sloppy_diffuser@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I always see the dude that is just two eye emojis for a username.

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[-] Rottcodd@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

So seriously - who's peddling this anti-vaping propaganda and what's their goal?

Vaping is easily the most effective way to stop smoking that's ever existed. Certainly we don't want kids to start doing it, and kids are the basis for much of the propaganda, but it's never just restricted to trying to make it so kids don't start. All of the propaganda efforts are directed toward stamping out vaping entirely, and that means that millions of people whose lives could literally be saved by switching from smoking to vaping will be denied that opportunity.

Why? Whose interests are served by denying adult smokers access to the most effective smoking cessation product ever?

[-] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago

So seriously - who's peddling this anti-vaping propaganda and what's their goal?

And

Vaping is easily the most effective way to stop smoking that's ever existed.

Care to make a wild guess who's behind the propaganda?

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Tobacco companies are in on the vape industry, though

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[-] Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

I tried everything under the sun to quit smoking. It wasn't until I got myself a rig and stepped the nicotine down to zero until I was able to stop. I have remained smoke free for going on 8 years.

[-] 123 4 points 1 year ago

Nicely done! Similar route for myself. I did get more addicted to my vape at first, just out of sheer convenience/not having to go outside. Realized it though and took steps to be 8 months vape free.

Do you ever crave it anymore? I smelled someone's cigarette the other day and instantly wanted one.. when I was vaping, cigs smelled awful. monkey brains are weird.

[-] Whirlgirl9@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fortunately i don't. once in a blue moon after a meal there is a brief flash but it's rare and a blink. i just enjoy being in an airport and not wanting to tear my hair out from cravings. oh and it took 2 years to quit...for those who are trying.

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[-] galmuth@feddit.uk 14 points 1 year ago

Who's trying to stamp out vaping entirely? All I'm reading into this article is just "Kids shouldn't start vaping, especially if they have asthma."

The suggested solutions I've seen in the news recently are things like keep the vaping displays away from kids, stop kid-friendly flavours, and make packaging less enticing - all things that they currently do for cigarettes, and all perfectly reasonable IMO.

No-one I've seen is proposing taking them away from adults.

[-] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago

Fuck this stop kid friendly flavor shit. I'm 40. I prefer sour flavors like apple/peach or red bull. I swear to fuck I will start smoking again to spite you paternalistic motherfuckers.

[-] galmuth@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Christ, chill with the venom. Fair enough, you like those flavours, but there are ways to avoid marketing them as desirable to children.

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[-] ruckblack@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

"kid friendly flavors" tend to be literally everything except for "chemical tobacco flavor" and menthol. And sometimes they go after the menthol too. They're trying to kill the whole thing.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Adults also like the “kid friendly” flavors. Restricting people to vape flavors that taste like ass isn’t going to help them stop smoking cigarettes that are more harmful to themselves and those around them

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

If you smoke, you should be allowed to vape in an attempt to quit. But if you never smoked, fuck vaping. It's too new to be thoroughly studied for health effects.

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[-] Afghaniscran@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago

If I had to guess? Tobacco companies.

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

Well tbf vaping is also a highly effective gateway to hook the youth.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I liked that proposal to raise the minimum age every year that was proposed in the UK. Let people quit or smoke until they die but don't let people start smoking

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think people should be able to dope their systems with whatever they want.

[-] HaunchesTV@feddit.uk 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Exactly. Banning tobacco outright isn't going to stop smoking, it'll just create a black market. And we know how effective that has been for 'real' drugs. Smoking has been naturally declining in popularity anyway, so it really just feels like Tory posturing.

[-] 520@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think that became an actual law in Australia.

Edit: it was NZ, my bad!

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[-] NeuronautML@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Media talking about vapes is like: "Olympic athlete who vapes died of a hole in the lung from which he bled out of, raising awareness to the practice of vaping in society."

Article: "The Olympic athlete was shot during a home robbery. It's totally unrelated LOL."

[-] SomeoneElseMod@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago

I vape, it’s how I quit smoking. I’d prefer to smoke, but it is the lesser of two evils, and I would encourage anyone who smokes cigarettes to switch. I recently went on holiday, smashed my vape and couldn’t find a replacement. I ended up buying the disposable kind from a supermarket for the first time and I was honestly shocked at how wasteful the are - so much unnecessary plastic that goes straight into the bin. But I was more shocked by how clearly geared towards children the disposable kind are - the bright colours, the flashy lights, the super sweet flavours, the high nicotine content. The one I bought was called YOLO ffs.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The proposals include:

  • restricting the flavours and descriptions of vapes so they are no longer targeted at children
  • keeping vapes out of sight of children in shops
  • regulating vape packaging so they are not targeted at children
  • exploring whether increasing the price of vapes will reduce the number of young people using them
  • considering restricting the sale of disposable vapes, which ministers say are clearly linked to the rise in vaping in children and are incredibly harmful to the environment.

So not really very much, it's hardly worth storming the Bastille over.

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