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The declaration was the culmination of seven months of work to renew long-stalled talks that began in October when Ankara offered Ocalan an unexpected olive branch. 

The news won a cautious welcome on the streets of Diyarbakir, the main city in Turkey's Kurdish-majority southeast, where locals have seen repeated efforts to end the violence come to nothing. 

"We want this process to move forward and not be left unfinished. They shouldn't deceive the Kurds as they did before. We really want peace," 60-year-old worker Fahri Savas told AFP.

There was a similar sentiment in Iraqi Kurdistan's Erbil, where Khaled Mohammed, 55, warned: "We only support the peace process if it is serious and accompanied by international guarantees."

Remains to be seen how genuine Erdogan is (probably not very much).

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wow, good news. How novel.

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

are you sure it's good news?

[–] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

They say they’re disbanding because they feel that the issue is now solvable via domestic politics. That seems like a good thing to me

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

Exactly. Even an attempt at that is good news after decades of warfare.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

what makes you think that this is related to anarchism?

[–] nsrxn@scribe.disroot.org 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

pkk is often discussed in anarchist circles as a model for armed resistance.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

pkk is often discussed in anarchist circles as a model for armed resistance.

No it isn't - you are thinking about Rojava, which is linked to the PKK.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

yes, i've heard/read "municipalists" talk/write about Rojava but no anarchist would think of archist authoritarian killers like PKK as a model (unless they're trying to misinform)

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

yes, i’ve heard/read “municipalists” talk/write about Rojava

Plenty of anarchists have discussed Rojava, not just "municipalists" (whatever that might be). Anarchists have even died fighting in Rojava.

killers like PKK

What? Anarchists have problems with killing now?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

What? Anarchists have problems with killing now?

yes, at least one of them.

there are many anarchisms. Some never did put their beliefs above lives.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some never did put their beliefs above lives.

Then your belief isn't worth shit.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The world is full of people who can't agree on even the simplest things. When they used violence to "convince" people to live according to their beliefs, the result was always nothing but suffering.

your language reflects your vulgarity. You already use verbal violence just because i disagree with you on an online forum.

i'm sorry (not really) to read that even you're not sure about what you believe. Violence is a sign of frustration.

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How does any of this make your beliefs NOT shit?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Old enough to remember the difference between a taut and a slack tripwire.

You?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

i don't get the reference. Can you elaborate?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It means I was being taught how to field-strip assault rifles before the Berlin Wall came down.

How old are YOU?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

if you're writing the truth, that makes you at least 50. When will your pissing contest end? Aren't you too old for this?

Did you make the world a better place with your rifle? Why are you wasting time on lemmy if you think that violence is the solution?

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

!privacy@lemmy.ml

my question was rhetorical, implying that you're immature

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Lemme guess... not old enough to remember what the world was like before the internet, eh?

Don't bark like a big dog if you piss like a puppy.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

don't make assumptions just because i don't play your game

you don't have a clue and i won't help you

[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, Clyde - you were the one trying to play games. You were the one who resorted to them when you ran out of excuses. Not me.

And that tells me everything I need to know.

Bye.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Go wallow in your irrelevance somewhere else.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago

why are you on lemmy?

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Grifting US funding is a model?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 7 points 2 months ago

Why wouldn't it be?

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because it is. The PKK has [now had] promoted democratic confederalism for over a decade, an anarchism-adjacent governance model.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago

Shit, you got me. I've been owned.