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[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 203 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (11 children)

Bytes, my man, you need an archived link. https://nitter.net/PabloReports/status/1919822694477947003#m

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[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Cops will take as much freedom as you give them and often they will attempt more than they have been granted. Never give cops an inch they are not legally entitled to. In democracies, laws exist to grant people freedom from the power of the state, not to grant the state freedom from the power of the people. Any laws that grant cops protection from the people are laws of a tyranny. We get only the protections of the state that our rights make possible and no more. Trading freedom for security gets us neither.

The only disappointing part of the article is that the 2 brown shirts continued to live.

[–] RangerJosey@lemmy.ml 4 points 7 hours ago

🎶 Stack em high. Stack em high. While they gurgle bleed and die! 🎶

[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.zip 26 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I still think about this scene a lot because I've been there sheen relatively normal people casually talked about going to cities and shooting "democrats“ while also talking about the guns they were currently buying. I should have turned them in.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I should have turned them in.

And put yourself on the list to be visited by "ICE."

[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I have too many family members who are Leo, plus other reasons why they shouldn't do that. Plus it would be homeland security or FBI for various other reasons. But it could be ICE because I know a lot of immigrants. It would be a clusterfuck.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder if the director told that actor "have, just, the worst trigger discipline. Make it look like you have no business handling a firearm."

[–] duhbasser@lemm.ee 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

In the movie this is right after he executes 2 Chinese journalist, so lack of trigger discipline kinda makes sense. Oh and he’s about to try to execute a bunch more people in the up coming moments

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Agreed. Dude was unhinged and didn’t give a fuck about any of that in this scene. Which obviously made it more tense

[–] duhbasser@lemm.ee 2 points 1 hour ago

I’m not sure how well received this movie is but I really enjoyed it. The movie did a good job at not really identifying this characters “military affiliation” as well as the first group of militia they ran into. To my knowledge, nothing really identified these two groups as being affiliated with the government or resistance, so the tendency to just kill everyone you don’t know is probably how most things would get handled in the fallout/duration of a civil war.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 13 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

They could be ICE, they could also be the KKK.

[–] LeroyJenkins@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

America's Gestapo

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Indeed, my thoughts exactly.

[–] Sunflier@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

¿Por que no las dos?

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 35 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

So how long until real criminals start following suit and impersonating undercover ICE agents? Not like there's much distinction between either "career" now, is there?

And then how long until ICE agents start showing up with holes on the ground because property owners "thought" they were real street thugs trying to rob them? Is there even a way to tell the difference? ~wink wink~

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago

And then how long until ICE agents start showing up with holes on the ground because property owners “thought” they were real street thugs trying to rob them? Is there even a way to tell the difference? ~wink wink~

Should happen more often, this aversion to civil violence is a bit like a game of "I drop my weapon, you drop yours" between governments and people, except governments never fulfill their part.

Like Russian opposition trying to do "everything by the law" until realizing the other side never was, it was just silent enough in killing and randomly vanishing people and pretending its just dumb thieves. The same is happening in the EU right now, they just don't know it yet.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

"Batches? We doan need no stinking batches!"

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago

Stand your ground

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 94 points 1 day ago (13 children)

"When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson

[–] lowered_lifted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 18 hours ago

He didn't ever say that, actually. It was likely first said by an activist in New Zealand https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/jefferson-injustice-resistance-quote/

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