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[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 93 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Jokes on you, I'm boycotting the game since Epic bought it and forced me to create an epic account to play it. After I purchased it on Steam, mind you. Absolute douche move and they can go fuck themselves. It should be illegal to alter a game post-launch so that you can't play it under the same circumstances when you bought it.

[–] ADHDefy@kbin.social 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yep. I haven't played since then, partly for the reason you said and partly cause they took away Linux support at the same time, even if you already owned the game on Steam where Linux was fully supported.

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The straw for me was when they made Snow Day competitive only. Stupid fucking decision and ruined the game for those of us who just got on to do some casual snow day.

[–] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Fucking loved snow day.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There's only room for so many queues. If you just ignore the rank, competitive is casual.

[–] nunchuk@lemmy.bigsecretwebsite.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure this is because Epic servers don't support Linux, payday 2 ran into this recently where Linux just no longer works. Epic is such a shit stain on the games industry

[–] WigglyTortoise@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You mean you can't play Rocket League on Linux at all? I haven't played recently but a couple months ago it worked for me totally fine through Heroic Launcher.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think he meant that it used to have a native Linux version, so much so that I got my copy from buying a steam controller. The first thing that epic did was rove the Linux build, and we had to use proton to play it. I remember complaining at the time and got a response from those dumbasses that always troll Linux users on steam saying something like "that's your problem, the game still works for windows, just use windows", I guess those same people now just play it on the epic store or whatever, because they seem so complacent when the game was removed from some people that I can only assume they were also complacent when it was removed from them.

[–] WigglyTortoise@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah that's what I assumed, but saying "Epic servers don't support Linux" had me a bit confused.

Also, the game is still playable from steam as long as you bought it before it was moved to the epic store. Not trying to defend epic, if it was up to me it would still be on steam, but those people probably haven't had to move at all.

Admittedly I was inferring from the comment that the servers don't work on Linux, specifically because of the example I used (payday 2) where that IS the case because of the switch to Epic's servers a few months ago

I haven't tried multiplayer, but I have played against bots on Linux through Steam and it works fine. I used to play MP in RL on Linux, butb I'm not touching that again now that Epic messed with it.

[–] Davel23@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I recall correctly they were offering refunds for a time on Steam, regardless of date purchased/hours played when the buyout was first announced. I'm not sure if it's still available, but couldn't hurt to ask.

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Also OP would have accepted tos which no doubt set out you don't own the game only a licence to access the game, once it moved off their platform they offered a refund... Shit yes but it's what everyone signed up for when they kept paying steam

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

ToS has been proven time and time again to mean nothing legally

[–] Selmafudd@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The ToS can't take precedence over local consumer laws. That doesn't change the fact in most cases you only own a licence to access the game not the game itself

[–] SRo@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Oh a TOStard

Same: I loved this game but Epic can fuck right off.

[–] SeedyOne@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Exactly what I did. Went to Epic and I retired. F em!

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Such an odd and overtly terrible decision to make. This helps literally no one, fixes literally no problems and boosts the community pitchfork economy.

The hell are they thinking?

[–] MrBubbles96@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, it's Epic. I doubt they were thinking

[–] Kuro@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Yep, all they do is fling around their fortnite money

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are thinking about revenue. A large layoff and now focus on protecting revenue.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For sure. I just don’t see how this helps. I don’t think a bunch of pissed off people are going to run to the shop to purchase the items they want them too.

Maybe in a month they will, but people are rightfully piiissssssed right now.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Gamers rarely stick to things. A boycott might last a whole week.

[–] XBannedx@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

If they can remember that long.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

The whales will, and those are the only people that matter to epic and all the game publishers with micro transaction F2P games.

A handful of whales bring in more revenue than thousands of regular players. They’re the ones these games are designed to milk for every cent. The rest of us are just a bonus

[–] hh93@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

80% of the items are traded for less credits than it costs to build the blueprints so they probably hope that by taking the trading option away that people will spend more money on those 2000CR blueprints

[–] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm never going to give Epic a single red cent. Their stewardship of Rocket League has been a nonstop parade of fuck-yous:

  • Pulled the game from Steam
  • Forced pre-existing Steam users to make Epic accounts
  • Killed Linux support
  • Laid off a large number of key studio members
  • Inserted season passes into a (previously) paid game

Too much take take take. I know this level of publisher meddling isn't uncommon, but it's rarely so obvious. We can see exactly what the game looked like before/after and I'm struggling to think of even a single positive change.

[–] spudwart@spudwart.com 7 points 1 year ago

The enshittification will continue until profits improve.

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My crackhead hopeful idea is that this is the last season of Rocket League and this is just prepping us towards RL2. I always found it weird that Epic continued to allow trading since they were clearly losing money with every player trade. Like, I was happy but shocked Epic was willingly losing all that money to keep the community aspect.

But Rocket League is on Unreal Engine 3 and there really wasn't much they could do to add things. I mean they added some limited time game modes but even psyonix said years ago they're stuck on UE3. I think RL on Unreal Engine 5 is close to being done, which will allow a lot more features to offset the lack of trading. But I'm probably just grasping at straws here

This decisions sucks. I've used up all my car slots designing all diffrent types of cars and without trading it wouldn't have been possible.

[–] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what new features would ue5 allow? wouldn't it just be prettier graphics for a game like rl?

[–] UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would anybody need trading in rocket league? It's just diffrent looking items

[–] deanne@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 1 year ago

rocket league has an in-game economy, much like counter strike, and epic is going to shut that down. because they want to sell items that are worth like maximum 100 credits on the item shop for like 800 credits. absolute dick move from epic

[–] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Interesting point, that this may signal incoming Rocket League 2

[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This opens up future plans for some Rocket League vehicles to come to other Epic games over time, supporting cross-game ownership.

The Meataverse. The shitshow which lead to 900 people being laid off. "Everything EPIC" needs to get under one huge umbrella for this.

Next step will be that you can buy a skin in one game shop and getting it in multiple games, so a pumpkin skin in Fortnite turns automatically into a car skin for Rocket League but costs three times what it costs now, because "You will get sooo much more!!!!" All to make you stay inside the EPIC game world, because the next new game that comes out you can use all these crazy skins in from the start and why would you want the game on Game Pass or Steam where your skins won't work? FOMO meats sunken cost fallacy.

Everything and I mean EVERYTHING Epic does from now on is done for the Epic Metaverse, nothing else will count, not the people working for Epic, not the gaming communities.

The good thing is: It has already started to ruin them and it will continue to ruin them and it will ruin Epic until the CEO has to go and he owns half of the company, so I doubt it is going to happen soon. Look at what this same idea does to "X" or Facebook and in the end there can only be one Metaverse if that idea would work, but it won't.

Tim Sweeney's "apology" for laying off 900 people: "I was spending to much on the Metaverse" - first sentences. "I am going to spent more on the Metaverse anyway!" - last sentences.

Source: https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/layoffs-at-epic

Ah yes, we all love FOMO

[–] YIj54yALOJxEsY20eU@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I would never have been able to have a fenic if it wasn't for trading, the car I've used exclusively since acquiring it. The whole system of drops and blueprints is so dumb already and trading is the only thing that rectified it.

Cool, I'll just continue not buying stuff from Epic then.