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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 11 points 49 minutes ago

Title is misleading, they are moving away from google services.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 11 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

USA is being horrible at the moment, but China has a LOT of convincing to do before I'll let them deliberately have my data.

Best way remains to raise as high a digital moat against everyone. If you need a smartphone, get a Pixel, install Graphene on it and as few apps as possible.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

PostmarketOS for everyone!

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 1 points 43 minutes ago

I really want to get to a point I can transition to using this or another mobile Linux distro. My phone is fairly (hehe, it's a Fairphone) well supported, but my impression is that basic phone features are still not functioning properly making it more of a pocket computer and less of a phone. I still need phone features. As for mobile apps, I don't have many needs and I think Waydroid will get me far.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

What ever happened to that other OS that was named after a color

[–] Overshoot2648@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago

Fuschia? That was a Google alternative to Linux that never panned out. It was weird with streams instead of files.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

We are going to move away from Google, by basing our new future on AOSP, which is also primary maintained by Google.......I smell another FireOS level product on the horizon. Still Android, but worse.

[–] haych@feddit.uk 134 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

So that title is just a straight up lie. They want to use a de-googled Android.

To be honest I was hoping for an alternative OS, competition is always good. But a de-googled Android could possibly be good, but being Chinese I assume instead of Google telemetry you'll just be replacing it with CCP telemetry.

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Indded but as an Australian, if I have to have an anal probe i'd rather it from the CCP as they wont share it with my Government.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I mean judging by the current American government id much rather my data is going to the CCP then the American Government via Google as a proxy.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Would love that if it was an option.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 24 minutes ago

I don't know to what extent they smuggle data out of the devices, but afaik a de-googlified phone such as Pixel + GrapheneOS gets you close.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 20 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Honestly, I think a person in either nation should consider using the opposing nation's stuff. Harder for the US to backdoor Chinese encryption, or for Chinese to backdoor into an American phone. Play the bastards off each other.

Odds are, that the Trump Regime will use American apps and phones to identify and track targets for ICE traffickers. China probably does the same to Uighurs. The less attack surfaces they have, the better for their respective peoples.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Except that there are credible reports of the CCP running police operations on foreign soil.

[–] WarlordSdocy@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

But what reason would they have to go after you on foreign soil? Unless you're like actively causing problems for China they're not gonna spend the effort to go after you for saying "China bad" on one of their phones. That only matters if you're in China at which point it's silencing internal discontent. The much bigger likelihood is the American government seeing you, through data Google gathers, organize against US support of Israel or any other position they start abducting people for and grabbing you off the street for it.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 18 points 19 hours ago

That sounds funny, but In that reality, the government with all its power will find a way in (they probably already have programs (as in departments) for finding their way into other countries tech).

Better to just install a proper de-googled android build (grapheneos, etc) and only use wifi (if data/phone num not needed) for the best odds.

In a couple of years (with more r&d, development and investment) I bet this will change to being use a linux phone.

[–] piyuv@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago

Apple building backdoors for CCP and sharing any and all data with them: am I a joke to you?

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 11 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

US telemetry == CCP telemetry, I can't see how CCP will be more damaging to regular person.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 11 points 18 hours ago

I think it’s just that they were saying his won’t end up benefitting us. It’s just changing who is holding the binoculars.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 34 points 17 hours ago (6 children)
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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 15 points 17 hours ago

If it's not proper linux I don't care

[–] gencha@lemm.ee 22 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

A rumor of plans??! Tell me everything!!!

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Gurl let me spill the tea, there's word floating round in China that some bde powa playas be considering maybe kinda putting something together.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 19 hours ago

Pretty soon they're going to pencil in a meeting about possibly arranging a committee to discuss preliminary plans to do a feasibility study.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 5 points 17 hours ago
[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 373 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (20 children)

Before anyone gets too excited, the headline is clickbait. The bigger Chinese phone brands are looking into de-googled Android. They are still going to use Android.

several prominent Chinese smartphone manufacturers, including Xiaomi, Oppo, Vivo, and OnePlus, are exploring the possibility of developing versions of the Android operating system that do not rely on Google Mobile Services.

Chinese laptop makers are also in search of an OS that isn't Windows. Queue a race to prop Linux with Android support on that side of things.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 140 points 1 day ago (9 children)

de-Googled android sounds even better. The story is cooler than the title!

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean they just replace Google with their own Chinese data-mining services so, no, not cool.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 22 hours ago

No no no, it's not Chinese data mining.

it's just socialised data with Chinese characteristics! Much better.

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[–] eco_game@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I like your spirit, but I don't think a Chinese equivalent to Google Play Services would be more desirable

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

All I want is unified push really. Then you just choose your server or host your own.

Or just Linux. Like furios or phosh, etc.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

I wish more apps supported unified push!

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[–] Lembot_0002@lemm.ee 140 points 1 day ago (37 children)

We need phones with standard Linux. Without strange "Java only mediator" or something. Just a normal OS.

Android is a pain in the ass.

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