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[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Russia

Ms-13 hasn’t made it to the White House

Russia has

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 3 points 3 days ago

Sad but true

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The death toll from Israel supporting Americans exponentially dwarfs the number of Americans harmed by MS-13.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 88 points 4 days ago

Considering Russia kind of just put the final nail in the coffin for your democracy, probably Russia

[–] mcamp@lemmy.aicampground.com 7 points 3 days ago

I'm going to go with option C, the Trump regime.. We need to be more worried about them and how they ate dismantling our democracy.

[–] Eggscellent@sh.itjust.works 61 points 4 days ago

I guess it depends on how many nuclear weapons MS-13 has.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 58 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost - the "homegrown" criminal gang.

Seriously, had you heard about MS-13 before Trump?

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Americans should be concerned about Trump and his goons first and foremost

Soooooooo…. You’re saying Russia then.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 2 points 4 days ago

Yeah but taking out Putin won't help as much now.

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[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 4 days ago

I don't see a MS-13 hand shoved firmly up Trump's ass, so....

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Depends on context. If the context is "planning a holiday in El Salvador", maybe MS-13 is relevant. Beyond being worried about impact on others' lives, MS-13 is largely irrelevant to Americans and most people that I've encountered never heard of them before 2016.

[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump, GOP, MAGA > Russia > China > MS-13

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)
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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Russia, biggest mafia in the world, and also funds White supremecist/right wing groups all over the worlds.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uk 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And Brexit, people think. Russia is dangerous to the whole of the world.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

yup, also funds fox(works closely with MURDOCH), which russia today version in the US.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 29 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago (4 children)
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[–] bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.social 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Idk anything about ms 13 so I can't try to assess them as a threat. But I have a hard time imagining a gang or terror group coming close to russia in terms of threat to Americans

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I find it peculiar we never heard about ms-13 until a few months ago (at most).

[–] didnt1able@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

One of my best friends came from el Salvador. They fled because of the gang violence, I've known her since we were about 12. She was the one who told me about MS13. But it wasn't something that was mainstream media worthy because it was a big issue there.

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[–] Tronn4@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Republicans and some democrats

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)
  • international: Russia (and their puppet, Trump)
  • domestic: we have enough racist, fascist domestic terrorists (ex. Proud Boys, Patriot Front, etc., etc.) that pose far more of a threat to the US than MS-13
[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The only other time I had ever heard of MS-13 was the psychopathic rantings of a former cop I worked with briefly. Hmmm... wonder why they aren't a cop anymore?

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[–] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well my retirement isn't down because of ms-13

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Gangs are bad. Thing is, you don't fight gangs with military you fight them with relief. Gangs thrive on hurt people and the people who are suffering. If you relieve the hurt and suffering poverty causes you destroy the gangs ability to recruit.

[–] kaprap@leminal.space 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 6 points 4 days ago

Then Russia. Thats where the ACTUAL voter interference comes from.

[–] sith@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Russia. MS-13 is nothing in comparison. Though it wouldn't surprise me if Russia supports MS-13 as part of their hybrid warfare. That's how they work.

Understand that Russia has largely been able to put US to its knees through hybrid methods that utilize and enhance the negative effects of american arrogance, neoliberal dogmatism and the war on drugs. Trump is the final stage before the empire comes down. It's probably too late to turn the ship around by now. China + EU is already the facto world leaders and the US is doing everything to destroy itself and there is no real political and economical self-awareness among people with power.

The US should have started to decrease inequality, stop the war on drugs and enforced (sane) tariffs and migration policies 15 years ago. The EU has the same problems, but there isn't the same level of inequality and political extremism and fundamentalism, which makes me believe that the EU will survive as a western democracy and relevant world player, but the US will not.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

They should be concerned about the dictator problem they have at home.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That's a joke right? MS-13 isn't trying to invade Ukraine.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Not a joke, apparently, read the other comments.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the forces task with each risk are entirely separate. the states should police for internal gang activity. the feds should be fucking freaked out over russia just deciding to invade other soverieng nations for zero reason.

but that was back when the united states had a functioning government. those days are long gone.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago
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