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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm very confused by all of these pictures. Did they pull him out of Supermax and just give him street clothes for the photo ops, then throw him back in?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 40 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

of course. optics, optics, optics. we have seen the real photos, the headown frog marching, the packed cells. we know there was a shaved head under that ball cap. puppy killer ICE barbie and others have all done their photo ops.

the important thing is we know there is a live body to bring back. now we keep fighting for due process for each and every person trump has illegally shipped to hell. once they are adjudicated, then laws can be applied to each fairly.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 13 points 6 months ago

"Applying the laws fairly" would start with shipping them all back home and compensating them $10k/day they were detained without due process.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 34 points 6 months ago

as has been said in other posts - please send a message of support to Sen. Van Hollen. my partner and I have done so and we are also sending a donation.

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 33 points 6 months ago (2 children)

This somehow makes it worse now

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 39 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm sure these photos were a condition of seeing him. Nothing to see here, folks! Definitely no torture happening, go back to sleep

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Not only that, but that dude is obviously drinking coffee, and those wine glasses are filled with untouched water.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

More importantly, the government minder is there at all times. Even during the handshake, Garcia is looking at him, not the senator. The body language is clear: he's afraid.

I'm sure he was informed prior to the meeting about what he was expected to say and the consequences for not doing as he's told.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Whose the ominous dude in the black suit overseeing the photoshoot?

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Considering he has a notepad and pen out, I’m guessing he’s a translator.

[–] ModestCrab@lemmy.wtf 29 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"I said my main goal of this trip was to meet with Kilmar. Tonight I had that chance," Sen. Van Hollen said. "I have called his wife, Jennifer, to pass along his message of love. I look forward to providing a full update upon my return."

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 21 points 6 months ago

“I ain’t sayin SHIT until this plane lands.”

[–] amorpheus@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Clothed and sipping drinks? At this point he might as well just go home with the senator, he's there illegitimately anyway as they have admitted.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Is it okay for me to still be suspicious that these photos aren't real ? Why no video ?

Wtf. Why?

And they put him in regular clothes and a hat.

Idk. I hope he is alive. I can't say I'm convinced yet.

Can't trust nothing anymore. You know?

[–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The prison wardens there are mindful of their media image.

[–] daannii@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sure. But it's fucking weird right. ?

Like we know where this guy sleeps. We know where he sits all day. We know what clothes he wears.

And then show him in regular clothes being given a cocktail. Why the hat? Hiding bruises or something?

It's just crazy shit.

There are only 3 photos. Guy never looks at camera directly for any of them.

No video.

Idk. That's weird too.

I'm going to stick with my suspicion that the guy may not be alive until I see some better evidence.

Booker is planning on going down there too.

Let's see how that goes.

In these trying times when everything is crazy, I can't take anything at face value. You feel me?

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought the same thing when I saw the photos. Let's wait and see what the senator has to say once he's back in the US. Hopefully this isn't the end of it.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

the value of a sitting us senator bringing back eyewitness reports. priceless.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Honestly for what? The widely known and recognized notoriously unsafe and unjust prison dresses people nicely?

Where do you cash that in?

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

this is for maga and the maga-adjacent. anything to shift focus from the truth of him being illegally shipped to a gulag. "oh, look! its a vacation". anything to distract. fox news is going to be cashing in on this all day long on perma-repeat, just like calling him a "terrorist".

maga folks are likely lost and unreachable in their hate-additiction. just keep reminding every non-maga person you know that this is a scripted trump show and the only reality is that a man was illegally ripped from his family, illegally removed from the country with zero due process and illegally sent to rot in a paid torture chamber, probably permanently. the courts all agree it was illegal and it will be illegal if/when trump continues to refuse lawful court orders.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The craziest shit is that Trump himself has admitted it, and they still refuse to believe it. I don't think anyone could ever explain to me how that even works.

I legitimately pray for a meteor to crash into this planet on a daily basis. I'm fucking done.

[–] qprimed@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 months ago

there is a deep schism in this country and I barely understand approximately 20% of us. the attempt to dominate by tearing down the other, the desire to craft a zero sum game where there should be bounty for all. the adoration of cruelty and greed in those they empower to hurt others.

and then I see comments here, indeed many, that give me pause on my own downward spiral. people like you who are so obviously not... them. I dont know you, but I know that you and I are likely not enemies. you and I would likely bump shoulders, literally and metaphorically, holding the line against these people. and I have reason to not give up yet. neither of us are alone.

[–] booly@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

In today's statements, Sen. Van Hollen said that Abrego Garcia said he was transferred out of CECOT last week, to another prison. The Senator believes that the public pressure is influencing the actions of the Salvadorean government. The attention on this case is working, and is making a difference.

In the courtroom where his case is being heard in Maryland, protesters from the street can be heard. This shit makes a difference.

Let's keep it up.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

At least he knows that people are aware of his situation, and that his family is safe, and now they'll know he's alive. Up until that moment, he had no idea if his family even knew what happened to him. That's at least a small measure of comfort for him and his family.

Also, he'll be able to go back to prison and tell the rest that they havent been forgotten, and there is a movement in America to end this abomination.

There's a long ways to go, but this was a MAGA blink.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

If the place isn't a torture center and death camp, why did the senator have to meet this guy at a hotel? Usually jails have visitor areas but for some reason this one doesn't. Gee, I wonder why.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world -3 points 6 months ago

Why would he let them drag him back there. What an absolute coward