No you shouldn't. Google has enough data already. If it is not self hosted it can't be trusted.
The idea that you should fly with exclusively self-hosted approaches is equally absurd to the idea that you should just blindly trust everyone.
Plus, if they have, as you say, "enough" data already, then surely giving them more doesn't actually hurt you in any way, shape or form?
yeah, self hosted may be a bit too much for everyone, but they should at least make its training database open as ai is biased on whatever data it is trained on
eg. like how some smart taps won't work for black people as the company just didn't trained the sensors to work with dark skin
imo, nextcloud took the best approach here, allowing users to utilize chatgpt 4 if needed, while still making a totally in-house FLOSS option available
why not?
what is so absurd about code running in an users own device?
Because it's just unnecessary. Due to their nature, you want a few services reachable from anywhere, anyways. There's no reason for the average consumer to acquire hardware for this purpose. Just rent the service or the hardware elsewhere, which also reduces upfront cost which is ideal in situations where you cannot know whether you'll stick with the service.
Again, it's either extreme that's absurd. You don't need your own video streaming platform for example. In rare cases, sure. For the vast majority of people, Netflix is a much service however.
hard disagree on that one, the opposite is true. we end up with companies centralizing it on huge datacenters and not even being able to profit from it (services like youtube are unprofitable). best solution would be a federated service. I digress though because video platforms are a completely different beast.
something as personal like ai assistants should utilize the processing power i already have available, wasteful not to.
also its a BAD idea to hand out data for something so personal to google yet again. lets not keep repeating that mistake if we can avoid it.
I would love to self-host something like that. But I do not have a good enough GPU to do something like that
Yeah hard pass for me dog. Are hey not currently in trouble for manipulating search results? What makes you think bard will be any different. Just look at bing chat.
And as Rick Osterloh, Google SVP of Devices & Services, stated in a recent interview with Michael Fisher (MrMobile), "You probably use YouTube, you probably use Google search, you probably use Gmail. You already use Google; if you want the best place to use all of your Google products, it's going to be on a Pixel."
Just like Apple, Google would ideally want full capture of their ecosystem.
The AI features seem useful but Google will likely do one of the following with it within 3 years of release:
A. Kill the feature
B. Nerf the feature to an unusuable level
C. Shove advertising into the feature at every possible opportunity
C and B are definitely happening in the next months, A will start by the end of next year, as support for Bard dwindles and Google moves on to the next AI assistant that has half the features and polish of the previous one.
Based on how full-in they're going with Pixel and AI, it'll most likely be a combination of #2 and #3.
They'll abandon the current version for some other incompatible version, leaving everyone using the current version SOL.
Google can't be trusted for long-term product and feature support.
It’s partly why I haven’t bought an Android phone, ever, and have stuck with iPhones. I know Apple is going to keep supporting the phone and apps within for many years. It’s encouraging that Google will support the newest Pixel with software, but they really need to work on their hardware quality and support now. This has been a consistent sore spot since inception.
Not how Android works, but ok. Android is just an OS. Each specific combo of OS and phone is unique. You can modify Android to the point where it's a completely different user experience between two implementations nominally using Android.
Maybe you just like iOS, that's fine, but it's good to understand why you like it. Personally I've been saddled with an iPhone for work and I hate the GUI, but I can appreciate the materials and some design choices.
The last thing I want any AI to ever do is to purchase something for me.
I hardly ever want my own intelligence to buy random shit
"I've barely tried these AI assistants everybody seems so hyped about, but you can up flight and hotel info, and Google has vaguely implied that it'll be able to do more in the future so I'm super excited!"
I mean, couldn't Google Assistant already look up flight and hotel info before? Doesn't the introduction of generative AI just transform that look up from simply scanning email and regurgitating info into a weird black box AI task that's right about 30% of the time but confident all the time?
He pretty much admits he has no idea what generative AI chatbots are, and it really shows from the article.
Yeah a lot of the features promised were already available at one point and taken away. I miss having the assistant show me a list of important info, like expected packages, priority emails, and appointments in one place. Google got rid of all that stuff and replaced the home feed with a buncha click bait news articles instead.
I remember back when they introduced Google now, and how it wasn't that great and slowly started to suck more and more. I have since disabled the Google app on my phone, and don't miss it in the slightest. I have a browser to handle my searches.
This really doesn’t seem like much.
My utopia would be a home assistant with a chat bot who is, quite literally, an “imaginary friend”. Somebody to just…talk to. No judgement, no drama. Remembered what you talked about before. Knows your emails and IMs and texts, and essentially every digital memory. Maybe not quite an actual therapist, but more like a trusted confidant.
Of course this would have to be self-hosted or Google would have to absolutely guarantee that all of its data is sandboxed and only used to train your friend.
Wow, I can talk to the hallucination machine! What an innovation!
... God, imagine if this all this effort went towards fusion power or space infrastructure. What a waste.
You talk as if those are separate things.
Advances in broad reaching technology ends up broad reaching.
generative AI chatbots are not much of an "advance" in technology as much as they are a "popular gimmick" in technology.
Mhmm. Literally things that computer scientists a decade ago considered impossible within our lifetimes occurs, but social media is convinced it's a 'gimmick.'
Laypeople have really drunk up the anti-AI Kool aid these days...
Bard is somehow worse than ChatGPT I hate it
really? they're on the same level imo (they both suck equally)
All I want to know is, will it argue back with me, because the assistant is already a massive smartass, if it can have a proper argument, then I'm all in baby!
I literally just want better support for extensions again
I'll believe it when I see it. What will likely happen is that it'll start out good then Google will slowly neuter it and make it dumber and dumber until it's essentially useless like Assistant
The only use case I've ever found for assistant is setting up an alarm for when I'm too hungover to find my glasses. That "set an alarm for 845" works a treat sometimes
To me, it feels like the final frontier for phones before a pivot to virtual/augmented reality becomes more tangible.
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