The folks over there are nuts. Didn’t believe it until I saw it lol
Reminds me of r/conservative on Reddit
this post was submitted on 06 Apr 2025
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Considering russia can stop the war at anytime by simply leaving Ukraine. I dont care about Ukrainian crimes.
I care, just not nearly as much as I care about Russian crimes. For the same reason that I care about the crimes of the Allies in WW2, but not nearly as much as I care about the crimes of the fucking Axis.
Exactly. Yes, firebombing Dresden wasn't exactly the height of civility, but neither was invading all of fucking Europe and murdering millions upon millions of civilians.
Similarly, Ukraine isn't a country full of saints, but they're not currently commiting genocide in a country they occupied by force.
And overall, the end goal is an end to war crimes. Is it bad when Russia does it? Yes. Is it bad if Ukraine does it? Yes. Is it bad when the allies do it? Yes. And so on. Anyone who says anything else, fuck them.
They don't even really care whether there are any real crimes.
I was talking with one of these people not that long ago. They said well Ukraine has been blowing up hospitals soooooooo. I asked them what hospitals. They didn't answer the question when I asked it several times, then they said what about this? and sent me a story about some kids getting shelled in Donbas 10 years ago. I said one, that's not hospitals, two, your source doesn't actually say the Ukrainians did that, it was just part of the separatist fighting by one side or another. They said well yeah sure it's the BBC, they're not going to admit it was Ukraine sooooooooo. And anyway, what do you mean, does it not count if it's not hospitals?
It's just a pile of shit. Every time. Just like you, I am sure there are individual Ukrainians who have committed war crimes. But it's not even an equivalence on the level of "well their country is being invaded so they're excused." Even with their country being invaded, they haven't been doing it to any level that is detectable.
Exactly, rules for thee but not for me.
Wowowowow thats a ban my friend... Cannot just admit that Russia is committing crimes like that. /ban for you
Don't worry, the Very Serious Anarchist doubtlessly doesn't believe that Ukraine is a real nation. Thus, they can be condemned. EZ.
Trying to wrap my head around the version of anarchy that accepts the legitimacy of one nation state but not the other.
Same as slrpnk moderators recommending that people vote for Jill Stein, but deleting people who recommend different strategies because it’s “electoralism.” Perfect sense, very cool.
A lot of times, for whatever “ism” is at issue, someone who is saying “I am right because it matches the right ism and you’re not allowed to disagree” are full of shit which is why they are pulling out that trump card.