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[–] PoPoP@lemm.ee 9 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

Also, did you know aluminum is the original word for the metal? The aluminium spelling was invented by British people after the fact simply because they thought it sounded better. Now they act like we're illiterate for leaving out the second "i"

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 51 minutes ago)

Everyone involved in that was british iirc. The guy that named it spelled it like 4 or 5 different ways and eventually aluminum mostly stuck, but the other science guys wanted everything to end in 'ium'

[–] aaron@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

It happens regularly. The pronunciation committee in regional councils sit down and decide to look at words and what they think sounds better. Tomato, basil, yoghurt, oregano are just a few 'we' (the pronunciation committees) changed just because they thought it sounded better.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago

Well, many Americans indeed are illiterate, and this is going to become even worse with Trump and DOGE destroying the education system. But the current system is shit as well, the level of education lacks behind compared to other western countries by far. And then there's the unregulated homeschooling in many states, which religious nut jobs, flat earthers and other conspiracy idiots love to do. Most Americans only speak one language and only learn about the US and it's history while skipping the rest of the world. Many don't even know where the UK is on a world map. Even your vice president didn't know where Greenland was, that it's close to the north pole and fucking cold. There are loads of videos of interviews with random people on the street where the average person can't even tell how many sides a triangle has.

In the movie Idiocracy they predict the world to be extremily dumb in the year 2505 but Americans probably thought this was a goal to work towards, and had trouble reading "2505" and thought it was 2025.

[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 71 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Britain also invented Imperial measurement system that is still used in the USA while being extremely outdated and inconvenient.

The US just can't adopt changes. It will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props.

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

18th century aka 1700s? Seems a bit unfair

[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

When did their constitution was written? And only "juridical clutches and props" since then :)

[–] Kanda@reddthat.com 1 points 34 minutes ago

Oh, I didn't entertain the notion that the country's remained essentially the same since the constitution was written.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

The US just can’t adopt changes. It will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props.

RIP

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The US doesn’t use imperial measures. It uses US customary measures which often have the same names but are significantly different.

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago

Technically theses days they use SI with weird conversion factors, and call that by the old US customary names

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well this escalated quickly

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All of your thoughts don't always end with death to america?

I was eating at my kitchen table the other day, looking out the window and watching the wildlife. It's nice to see the trees budding and the critters out again. What's really wild is how lazy Americans are. Those fatasses couldn't get up even if the country was doomed, and will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props. At least the weather has been nice recently.

[–] Hoimo@ani.social 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I see you didn't end that last thought with death to America. How easily the common man's mind is distracted from the downfall of an empire by a little sun. The weather is nice despite the president's best efforts to boost the stock value of umbrella corporations.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 12 hours ago

I have much to learn, sensei

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Britain also invented Imperial measurement system that is still used in the USA while being extremely outdated and inconvenient.

British people still use it too sometimes.

[–] RedAggroBest@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Brits can't make fun of Americans for measurement because they still measure bodyweight in stone

[–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah. I also sometimes use pre-reform grammatic of my native language (a huge reform was made a century ago); for comical purposes mostly.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

It will most probably die as an XVIII century country with a pile of juridical clutches and props.

Nope. They seem to have successfully moved into early 20th century politics already.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Let's see what happens when the American Empire falls

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The US is more flexible with systemic change than most countries, which is why it led the way in the 20th century in terms of societal and technological progress. We achieved boots on the moon (using metric AND the imperial system ;) during the Apollo mission; Britain by contrast achieved celebrations as conscription ended and loud drunken Beatles concerts, but not much else.

Have a day.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We achieved boots on the moon (using metric AND the imperial system ;)

Only the instruments for the astronauts displayed imperial units. All the science and engineering was done in metric.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

And much of the calculations were done by computers. And I mean the wonderful ladies that made spaceflight happen:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Area_Computers

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Britain by contrast achieved celebrations as conscription ended and loud drunken Beatles concerts, but not much else.

You forgot "Every major life event of pompous aristocrats"

[–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The meme doesn't really work. The working-class people who played football the most always called it football. Upper-class people at public schools (don't confuse this with state schools - in the UK, public schools are even posher and more expensive than private schools, and the name comes from letting anyone who could afford the fees in, not from any intention to educate the general public) needed to distinguish it from Rugby Football so they could make a rule against playing it, and invented the name Association Football. There's a tradition at public schools to shorten names in a particular way (Rugby football to rugger, buggery to bugger etc.) and when applying that to association football, it becomes soccer. Soccer has always been a term used to mock poor people who play football instead of rugby, so of course it's badly-received when people say it.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Reason why, most clubs founded in the 19th century onward, used football club in their names. Including Italian Spanish etc clubs founded by British immigrant

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

TIL

the name comes from letting anyone who could afford the fees in

Thank you for including that, too

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Soccer was a widespread term for it among all classes up until the mid-late 1970s, with books, magazines, newspaper columns, and so on using the term interchangeably with football. There appears to have been a switch to actively hating on the term, and it coincides with the rise of the hooligan in the 60s and 70s, and general xenophobia as demonstrated by the rise of the far right. It is at this point that “soccer” becomes a filthy American term among a certain type of “fan”.

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's why UK clubs called Liverpool F.C, Manchester United F.C. ,Chelsea F.C, Fulham F.C. and so on? F.C. Inter in Italy, Real Madrid F.C., FC Barcelona in Spain and so on?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago

I don’t really get your point. You’re expecting a nickname to make it to the club’s formal name?

[–] WuceBrillis@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So you're saying that because the printing press in the 50's used the term interchangeably, his claim that poor people always called it football is wrong?

Doesn't it sound likely that the upper class just... Owned more magazine companies maybe?

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

As the close relative of a football journalist, I spent my early life surrounded by historical books, journals, fanzines and programmes from around 1900 to the 2000s. Strikingly, pre-1970s, soccer and football were wholly interchangeable in every social grouping, every purpose, every outlet. Dockers down the pub would talk about footy, football, or soccer as if it meant the same thing. It is only with the xenophobia of the 70s that it became an “American” word and a naughty thing to say in certain company.

[–] JayGray91@kbin.earth 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Would be lovely if you have some source or something to read about.

Consider my interest piqued. I gave the Wikipedia page a skim and it seems like a good starting point

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago

Found a PDF of a 2014 study by Stefan Szymanski at the University of Michigan. Compares Soccer/Football use in The Times, NY Times, British football bibliography, Guardian, Independent and Time Magazine.