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Honestly, haven't we reached the point yet where assigning ANY label other than Anti-Trump is counter productive? How much more pain will have to be inflicted, and it will be, before people decide that they don't care about the label of the whatever-gender marching next to them.
I believe the most effective action is to cause pain for your local Republicans. Work to get them out. The ones still standing will switch sides because Musk can't buy everyone's office.
We 🇨🇦 have been yelling at 🇺🇲 for months now, "Boycott, protest, do SOMETHING!" Very happy to see them take action against the orange shitgibbon and his '88' fanatics. Well done! We're doing what we can by boycotting the US, but it ultimately falls to the 🇺🇲 people to clean up their own house.
Perhaps I just missed it, but I didn't see any support from local government, such as Mayors or Governors, speaking at the protests. Oh, well. Carry on without them and remember who stood with you and who hid under their desk.
You’d think they say more than 2 million. Since I read the estimate is at 5.2 million in the US. 100k in Boston alone.
I was at the one in Seattle. The turnout estimate from the organizers was 25,000 people.
Really? I was there and would have guessed far fewer, though it certainly was a pretty good turn out. But I don't know what 25k people looks like.
Would have liked to go. Glad it was big
And this time of the year is tulip and Cherry blossom time. 25k is a ton of people per unit area for a good mile. I hope they do it again.
It was raining yesterday. Less incentive to go look at pretty flowers. Then again, less incentive to be outside protesting, so go us!
Medium sized city in a very red part of a blue state: turnout was estimated to be 5000+ and huge amounts of support from honking drivers in the busy, adjacent multilane street, for 2 hours straight. Great energy/vibe, lots of outrage and creativity, and a very multi-generational turnout that shows that not just one age group hates MAGA, they ALL do.
Counter-demonstrators were next to none and getting shouted down. One Christofascist was dressed up like the Christ he's seen in picturebooks and was dragging around a replica of a full-sized cross and getting laughs and sneers for his efforts.
We're driving the Trump citizen-fascists underground, lets keep it up.
I was at one in Nola! The speakers were great.
I went to one in a small Illinois city today. We had about 1000 people which is crazy for our area. I bet the nola gathering was nuts.
Needs to be daily before anything happens
Once, in a weekend, means nothing. We need to be out there constantly, everyday
This is a good start, but it's only a very very quiet start
I was at one yesterday and while you’re 100% right, I’m hoping that what we’re doing right now is building a head of steam, the US has never really protested on this scale before and getting everyone out is gonna take time to organize. Next one is set for the 19th. If we get a bigger turn out then and keep it up that’s how we generate the momentum for daily protests and general strikes going. It’s not enough at all but I was encouraged by the turn out I saw versus other rallies this year
Speaking with some organizers... that is exactly the point: build steam to kick off a mass movement in the streets, if needed.
Yes! All the people saying "not enough" or "it needs to be a certain way" need to STFU. The US does not have a protest culture, we're building one right now. Protests are growing in size and frequency and people are boycotting businesses and it is hurting the companies being boycotted. Target is reporting fewer people coming into their stores and sales are down. Tesla is self reporting 13% decline in sales and the stock is losing value. Things are working and we're building up our resistance. We need to keep it up.
Those who are critical of the efforts, put up a better idea (that people will realistically do) and show the receipts. Otherwise you might as well be a fascist cause you're helping their side.
Yeah, look at Serbia. And they are only partway through as well.
Serbia's been under their oppressive government for ten years now. Is only been 3 months in the US. The comparisons to Turkey and Serbia are completely ridiculous.
You're right, a better comparison might be Hungary.
Strap in, for us it took 16 years to get out of it, if we get out of it next year. The way out seems to be a combination of:
Stop the disease ! STD - Stop Trump, Donald !
Impeach Facist Trump
Down with Nazi Felon Musk.
What is the relationship between "Hands Off" and 50501?
50501 is one group in the coalition running Hands Off. Hands Off is primarily run by a center-left group called Indivisible, but is endorsed/supported by a lot of other center-left to left organizations like the AFL-CIO, ACLU, HRC, DSA.
@Firefly7, I'm curious why you call them left or center-left. Do you define believing in human and worker right as left? What's the definition of left and right anyway?
Theyre broadly supportive of worker rights, trans rights, etc, and so they’re on the left of the political spectrum, but many are also fairly close to the Democratic Party, and they are a mixed bag when it comes to Israel, alongside being reformist rather than revolutionary, which places them in the center-left imo. Out of the organizations listed on the Hands Off website, the DSA was the furthest-left one I saw, and the DSA is itself a big-tent socialist organization that includes reformists and Democratic Party supporters. The Hands Off rally in my area had milquetoast Democratic congresspeople as speakers.
There’s a stark contrast between the sort of rhetoric and political position you’ll see at Hands Off versus at a pro-Palestine protest or a socialist reading group.
being reformist rather than revolutionary, which places them in the center-left imo.
I disagree. That's more to do with pragmatics than actual political alignment. Historically, leftist revolutions tend to get co-opted by corrupt individuals; the dictatorship of the proletariat has very little to prevent it from devolving into just regular dictatorship. A lasting leftist government needs to be constructed very carefully, which almost certainly can't be accomplished overnight.
Reformist communists want the same end goal as revolutionary communists, they just see a longer, gradual approach as being more likely to be successful and stable in the long term.
Why does the label matter?? Can’t it just be what it is without being attributed to a “side?”
I think we've moved beyond this. It is now about the facsists and the non-fascists.
Any tolerance or acceptance of what the Trump administration is doing, infers complicity in the desecration of US democracy.
Right, but both the far-left and the democrats hate trump, so… why does it really matter which one the title is attributed to?
Because Democrats still seem to think that all it'll take to undo the damage is another Biden from the blue team.
The world's not trusting the United States unless there's dramatic change and people see justice, not 4 years of foot dragging and "reaching across the aisle."
It matters if you label these events something that people who would otherwise support them find offensive.
I know I wouldn't go near anything that's labelled with left-right bs terms.
There was one here. I think I saw like maybe 8 people there.
That's great. Harder to be the first 8 than the last 1000. Kudos to them