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[–] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

“The people that think that’s toxic don’t understand the start-up game, and they’re just wrong,” he said. “The game is intense. And by the way, if you don’t do that, eventually, you’re out of a job.

For those who disagree, working at a startup is a choice, Hoffman insisted.

But the reward on the other side is second to none; the 100 or so first employees at LinkedIn don’t need to work anymore, he added. Microsoft purchased the professional networking platform for $26.2 billion in 2016.

That's good for the 100 or so first employees at LinkedIn, but I'm certain that the VAST majority of employees who bust their ass trying to help get a start-up off the ground don't have anywhere near that end result. I'm sure it isn't worth it for 99% of employees of start-ups.

But if you want to take on the challenge, hoping that maybe you'll be one of the lucky ones, go for it, but don't fucking drag a spouse/significant other, or children into that nightmare. If you want to commit your entire life to a start-up, then fucking commit.

[–] owenfromcanada@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what happens when you survey jackpot winners about the value of lottery tickets.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 10 points 1 day ago

That's called Survivorship Bias, and it's a fallacy! I would expect nothing less than irrationality from a billionaire that got lucky and thinks his hard work in particular was what got him where he is.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

It's a fucking lotto. Lucky people always think they're smarter or more hardworking than others.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

It's like listening to successful YouTubers say all you gotta do is commit to the grind and you'll achieve your dreams. Even focusing solely on the numbers, it's literally dishonest.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 2 days ago

Fuck off, Reid.

Winning what for whom, you blubbering dipshit?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not everyone hates their family, Reid.

I've worked with a number of workaholics over the years. A few have straight-up admitted that they were taking on extra work to get away.

[–] haverholm@kbin.earth 5 points 1 day ago

Why the f— would an employee be invested in the corporation "winning"? Unless he sees LinkedIn as a co-op and actively works on distributing profits equally to all member workers, that there is just management drivel.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

might want to look at your linkedin site, what it has turned into

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

It's also a good sign you're not mentally ill.

[–] TTH4P@lemm.ee 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean he's definitely an asshole for many reasons, but the context is "if you are a start-up entrepreneur"

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, he's still an idiot, and he'll realize it when he dies, if he's lucky.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 1 points 1 day ago

Like most CEOs that push this toxic shit, hope it's soon.

[–] Terrapinjoe@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

What a loser

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Cool, he might consider fucking off and dying.

[–] loaf@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

This guy reeks of chode energy.

[–] ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 day ago

I'm not, and he's still wrong.

[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Winning what, more profits for you instead of me? Get fucked, loser.

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

It’s weird that it’s always losers that are the ones talking about winning.

[–] kat_angstrom@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Maybe if workers actually Won by doing their jobs, this would be even close to approaching accurate.

I work to live. I dont live to work.

[–] CaoCaoKing@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Well I say seeking to remove my work-life balance means he's not committing to not wanting to taste lead at high velocity using the base of his skull as a mouth.

Giving up work-life balance in the pursuit of "winning" leads to a Pyrrhic victory, assuming that you even actually win.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Fuck winning.

Be the best, climb the ladder

Do it better, higher, faster

I refuse to participate

If I go up it will be slow

I’m bringing everyone I know

Stopping on the sixth or seventh rung

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

a reality check for entrepreneurs

Yes. You gotta grind like hell to start a seriously profitable company. Had drinks at our company's open house with a client who owned 3 or 4 small construction related businesses.

"You have to bust your ass for about 2-2.5 years to get a business rolling, then it mostly takes care of itself."

[–] Yxf@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

I’m proud of being a loser in this case.

[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 6 points 2 days ago

Man, Reid looking rough nowadays. If that’s what winning is, I don’t want it.

Also FYI, I’ll leave my original response up, but the title of this particular post is clickbait. Reid specifies a very particular instance where he thinks this applies.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"Winning" presumably means achieving something as worthwhile as inflicting LinkedIn on the world. I'm good thanks.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

LinkedIn == blessed 😍

[–] Maiq@lemy.lol 6 points 2 days ago

Not a good dedicated wage slave.

I am reminded of an episode of Friends. I forget what else was happening in the episode, but the guys and the girls are separated. The three girls are in Monica's apartment with a leg waxing kit they have apparently bought ALL THE WAY into the marketing for, because they keep saying shit like "we gotta do this if we wanna be goddesses."

Being excessively steeped in messaging is a great way to give yourself idea cancer.

"Winning." What are you "winning" if you work yourself into fatigue and start making errors and mistakes?

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 4 points 2 days ago

You committed to paying?

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

The quote is right though I suspect he means something very incorrect by it. If your work is hostile to your life, you're losing; ditch that job immediately.

[–] paddythegeek@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

So done with this bullshit.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

"...me my money."

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