I lost zero because the number going down doesn’t equal the value going down. You only lose if you panic sell.
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You still lose time, and are now stuck in an unprofitable investment rather than a profitable one. So you are also losing all the value you would have gained had we stayed the course instead of doing this dumb shit. Thats called opportunity cost.
You’re not wrong but they are also right. You’ve lost nothing until you’ve pulled out of the market. And unless you need that money within the next 18 months, that would be a colossally dumb thing to do. Even then I would probably advise against it.
Look up the stock market around March 2020. Huge dip then rebound to pretty much the same trajectory. As long as you left your stuff to sit, you're still doing fine. There's no reason to think the massive rebound would have still occurred without the dip.
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Trying to beat the market is a waste of time. You’re not stuck in an unprofitable investment unless you’re trying to get rich quick. You invest based on your strategy and value of said investment. It isn’t just because the number goes up and down. Time in the market wins every time. Read the founder of Vanguard’s book on investing.
Ordinarily, yes. But in this case, we're dealing with a type of risk we don't usually have to worry about: sovereign risk. It is entirely possible that Trump could be fucking up the country in ways that the market will never come back from because companies just get entirely destroyed or nationalized or who knows what.
In that sort of case, changing your investments -- not timing the market, but responding to the potentially permanent difference in circumstances -- can make sense.
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7% average annual growth includes dozens of market crashes and two world wars. This is not new, unique or surprising situation in any shape or form. I bet it wont take even a year untill we're back at all time high.
Well... You only lose if the value doesn't go up. A small but very important difference.
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I haven't checked. It's a long-term investment anyway.
I decided to adult and buy a few stocks. So far I've lost six hundred dollars.
Yes that doesn't seem like a lot but I've never invested before and I'm not exactly rich.
Haven't checked my retirement because I've never expected to be able to retire in this country. I will work till I die. Yay, American dream! 🙁
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I haven't sold, so none. I'm going to buy a bit more. Even if it goes down I can still get dividends and borrow against it rather than selling if i need
I've sold most of my international/US-biased stocks, only keep a few, plus some local company that I know is doing pretty OK.
I replaced it with mostly high-security stuff like the bank savings account or European central bank rate coupled stuff. So I guess I am losing the potential interest?
I am still not sure when to "buy the drop". I bet that (sadly), the US administration will do more bullshit before it gets better.
Not a penny. I dumped my meager stocks in November and I shit you not rolled them over into a bunch of nonperishable food
I lost everything long before this, sadly. Didn't even have money to start rebuilding before the tariffs nonsense.
It all feels insurmountable. Like it was going to be hard to build it all back, but now, with the tariffs? Just feels pointless.
The number of times I cry because it took me until I was nearly forty to own a bed of my own, and to just be a few years past forty and back down to basically nothing and sleeping on a 15+ year old mattress that isn't even mine that hurts my back every night is too damn high.
I never had much, all told it was all worth maybe $2000, but it's all gone now. It all feels so petty but it was mine, the few things I had were mine, and I took good care of them. It feels like a joke that it could have all been replaced for so cheap yet I have had no options because of my cancer.
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I bought European defense stocks so I get happy whatever he says.
Jokes aside about 30k maybe? Not sold anything and I did not care enough to check. Hopefully he does not get to stay in office for another 4 years. I'll just buy more meanwhile.
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I'm in the middle of closing on a house. I'll let you know in 5 years.
As long as you don't cave, the worst that will happen is you bought before the Depression 2.0 firesale. Your kids will be one of the few of their generation with access to a house. Congrats. Fuck you.
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Untill you sell, you haven't actually lost anything tangiable.
What I mean is that the market can absolutely bounce back once the situation is stabilized again, if you have time and resources, it might be worth riding this out.
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Aren't the stock markets supposed to recover from a crisis like this, as they always did in the past?
Anyone acting like this current clusterfuck is permanent or anything but a random stupid whim hasn’t been following what this shitgibbon does. He will repeal the tariffs at some point, call it a win, and the market will rally in response. Then it’s on to the next abomination of “policy”. Just another episode in the nonstop trash reality show that is a Trump presidency.
Why do you assume the market will rally when they're removed? The market will remain worried about the possibility of more. And the market has to deal with the already existing consequences of purchasing of usa goods down worldwide. Habits broken.
The market has the attention span of a goldfish. It’s classic shit: create a problem, repeal or “solve” the problem, bask in the celebration of relief and claim victory. The market won’t go back up the same amount it went down, but insider profits are reaped during market volatility.
If it doesn't everyone will have more to worry about than the worth of their 401k.
This is always how I’ve framed it. Either it will recover or we’re dealing with societal collapse–level problems. In the former, great, wait it out. In the latter, good luck no matter how much you had.
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The market has given up about one year's gain, so people who have held diversified portfolios for longer than that haven't really "lost"anything.
Yet.