A community to organize and discuss the growth of the fediverse as a whole
Meh, oh well. Good luck to them.
You can never expect perfection on any service. Especially a non for profit. It takes time and sometimes technical difficulties.
Also, there's a bunch of other instances to try or even trying to find contact information should have been first instinct.
Could just be paid actor. Reddit has been ticking off all the other red flags already, so why would it not try and destroy reputations this way?
What a wimp. I couldn't sign up on my first instance so I lurked for a week and tried another instance. Just think of how much the fediverse would be saved of my pleasant quips if I gave up so easily
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missing out on new users just due to signup issues.
George Carlin has a lot to say about half the people on the planet.
Who cares
Oh no. Anyway.
Frankly? Good.
I hate to be the asshole, but if someone is either that stupid, or that unwilling to put in even the most basic effort, I don't want them here.
My mom signed herself up for lemmy. In her early seventies, kinda ignorant of tech stuff, and did it all on her lonesome. So did my 12 year old niece. So did my cousin with Downs.
Yeah, a kid with downs syndrome could manage to sign up for lemmy. Didn't need any help beyond "hey, hairball, which lemmy?". That's it. Just wanted to know what instance he should pick.
But he sure as fuck got logged in just fine.
So, when I see these people on reddit that can't be bothered to do what you would do on any website that you have trouble logging into, I'm perfectly fine with them not being here. They aren't going to be bringing anything useful with them at all.
The fact that this trash comment got 60 up votes IS the main issue.
A large group of Lemmy actively wants to stay a elitist circle jerk...
This is going to be a big problem because like it or not, it is the large group of "laugh and upvote" people who make platforms successful, the ones who never create content or have strict dedication, yet still influence the platform by way of voting patterns and occasional comments.
Without these people the platform ends up being emptier, and less people will want to create content when they get less attention. So the elitist attitude that "They need to be dedicated to join, fill out the application to determine your worthiness" ends up hurting the Fediverse much more than it helps it.
TIL that expecting a tiny slither of effort from participants is "elitist"
This was more celebrating that a problematic email server was preventing new users from signing up.
Assuming it's because the user is stupid or lazy, that's the elitist part.
I tried to make a sh.itjust.works account earlier today as a backup, when I verified the email I couldn't login, it told me my details were incorrect, the details I'd just saved in my browser from the account creation process. Shit does not just work.
I mean I'll get around to making another account on another instance, but sh.itjust.works has account creation issues. The people acting elitist about it are fucken gronks because they haven't actually experienced the issue.
Hey there,
Sorry you've had issues.
If you can PM me your email I can take care of it.
I'm also on Matrix, which might be ideal as lemmy PMs aren't exactly secure (they can be read by your local admin as well as the remote admin, so mihht not bmuch of a problem in this case, but still)
Can you check by user name? Same u/n, your instance.
Your email was already verfied in the database, but if you follow that link again lemmy just tells you it failed instead of telling you it's already verified.
You should be able to just login.
If not let me know.
Worst case it might need a password reset.
We did test new signups again this morning and it worked.
I went through the pw reset process, set a new pw and it let me login. Thx
sh.itjust.works
Give that link a try again otherwise as @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works mentioned send us a PM with your account and we'll manually verify it.
Thanks
Database query says it's already verified
Dunno about the person I was replying to, but I was assuming they were lazy. And potentially stupid, but mostly the laziness was the critique.
"Oh no, I clicked the button and it didn't do what I thought it would. Oh well, I give up! My time is too precious to try any sort of critical thinking. I'll just post on reddit instead. Updoots to the left, thanks for the gold kind stranger. Dopamine boost achieved."
Okay, I updated my previous comment to "stupid or lazy" instead of just stupid so it more accurately applies your bunk assumption.
Assuming it's worth troubleshooting a broken just to interact with your salty comments calling people lazy because an email server isn't working is shitty and elitist, regardless of whether you want to hear that.
There's a lot of reasons to not use reddit, but the signup process is one of the first interactions users have with a site. Right now, reddit has a smoother experience than lemmy in that specific regard, and it's better to acknowledge than pretend otherwise.
The instance admin is literally in this thread acknowledging that their mail server is having issues. Doesn't matter how much effort the users put in if the verification email never goes through.
Seeing that someone is having trouble signing up, and jumping to the conclusion that it's the user's fault, might not even be elitist, just dumb.
I'm not sure, I've met some lovely people whose technical incompetence is nothing short of incredible. And if you try signing up for an instance you've been recommended and the sign-up process is broken, I understand that it can be disheartening.
Sure, Reddit is full of bad actors who just want to discredit alternatives, and clearly these people are not trying hard and they probably don't completely understand what Lemmy is, but I think it's still worth listening to their concerns.
At this point I'm willing to believe your mother and cousin with downs are both more likely to figure things out than the average 20-something, for the simple reason that they are not used to everything being so goddamn easy and not offering the slightest resistance. When you see the discourse on Reddit, a lot of people seem to be unaware of the difference between platforms and apps. Which shouldn't be a problem, if they can contribute to a meaningful discussion about whatever they do have an interest in.
I have many people in my disability support groups I recommended lemmy too and they were unable to use it.
(Our disability comes with severe cognitive problems and reduced energy, and trying to sign up was too much)
This is wrong and bad and not the way. It should be easy. The entire Fediverse should be the easiest to use, not the hardest.
As someone who still uses these occasionally : It's much easier to use than Reddit, Facebook or Twitter without their privacy invading apps. Their browser experience is laughably bad on smartphones (especially Reddit which is barely functional, and that is not an exaggeration), Lemmy is buttery smooth by comparison, even if we take in consideration the occasional home instance/federation hiccups.
Hey, one of the instance admin here of 50501.chat
Sadly, our SMTP provider is giving issues with holding emails. I have reached out to everyone affected and they should be able to re-sign up. I hope this does not deter people from signing up again on the instance :)
We try to be balanced but its hard to keep bots/bad actors at bay vs open-ness.
Thanks for chiming in with an update! Hope things go well.
I hope this does not deter people from signing up again on the instance :)
I hope so too. Looks like we might have lost one, though :)
On Reddit you see tons of people giving up due to signup issues, usually due to emails I think. Instance admins should really double check their process and make sure it's all working often.
And the app devs too, if you can signup through the app gotta make sure it works on instances with captchas/email verification/etc
Idk, I'm on lemm.ee because I tried sh.itjust.works and just never got an email. It is frustrating when it happens
Hey there! I'm sorry that you didn't receive the activation email. Can I ask how long ago this was? I recently changed our email provider and want to make sure it wasn't after the fact. Thanks!
I accidentally did one for ml and world's and never got a response, realized those are authotarian sites
Really dodged a bullet with ml
I had a similar issue, if I wasn’t determined to promote this place as a Reddit alternative then I likely would have stopped trying too lol. For what it’s worth, the Voyager app changed its recommendations for signing up.
Still, it’s a bit silly all of these servers have people write any blurb about joining or about obeying the rules before they’re let in. Most of the rules I’ve read don’t even specifically mention what they want you to say to be able to join the server. It may be preventing some bots, but many real users are getting stopped by this. I believe a good UX does not try to create arbitrary barriers of entry for new users.
This is the only instance I could login to, I don't know ml and world's which I never got a response is are political instances