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The fact that this trash comment got 60 up votes IS the main issue.
A large group of Lemmy actively wants to stay a elitist circle jerk...
This is going to be a big problem because like it or not, it is the large group of "laugh and upvote" people who make platforms successful, the ones who never create content or have strict dedication, yet still influence the platform by way of voting patterns and occasional comments.
Without these people the platform ends up being emptier, and less people will want to create content when they get less attention. So the elitist attitude that "They need to be dedicated to join, fill out the application to determine your worthiness" ends up hurting the Fediverse much more than it helps it.
TIL that expecting a tiny slither of effort from participants is "elitist"
This was more celebrating that a problematic email server was preventing new users from signing up.
Assuming it's because the user is stupid or lazy, that's the elitist part.
I tried to make a sh.itjust.works account earlier today as a backup, when I verified the email I couldn't login, it told me my details were incorrect, the details I'd just saved in my browser from the account creation process. Shit does not just work.
I mean I'll get around to making another account on another instance, but sh.itjust.works has account creation issues. The people acting elitist about it are fucken gronks because they haven't actually experienced the issue.
Hey there,
Sorry you've had issues.
If you can PM me your email I can take care of it.
I'm also on Matrix, which might be ideal as lemmy PMs aren't exactly secure (they can be read by your local admin as well as the remote admin, so mihht not bmuch of a problem in this case, but still)
Can you check by user name? Same u/n, your instance.
Your email was already verfied in the database, but if you follow that link again lemmy just tells you it failed instead of telling you it's already verified.
You should be able to just login.
If not let me know.
Worst case it might need a password reset.
We did test new signups again this morning and it worked.
I went through the pw reset process, set a new pw and it let me login. Thx
Give that link a try again otherwise as @InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works mentioned send us a PM with your account and we'll manually verify it.
Thanks
Database query says it's already verified
Dunno about the person I was replying to, but I was assuming they were lazy. And potentially stupid, but mostly the laziness was the critique.
"Oh no, I clicked the button and it didn't do what I thought it would. Oh well, I give up! My time is too precious to try any sort of critical thinking. I'll just post on reddit instead. Updoots to the left, thanks for the gold kind stranger. Dopamine boost achieved."
Okay, I updated my previous comment to "stupid or lazy" instead of just stupid so it more accurately applies your bunk assumption.
Assuming it's worth troubleshooting a broken just to interact with your salty comments calling people lazy because an email server isn't working is shitty and elitist, regardless of whether you want to hear that.
There's a lot of reasons to not use reddit, but the signup process is one of the first interactions users have with a site. Right now, reddit has a smoother experience than lemmy in that specific regard, and it's better to acknowledge than pretend otherwise.
The instance admin is literally in this thread acknowledging that their mail server is having issues. Doesn't matter how much effort the users put in if the verification email never goes through.
Seeing that someone is having trouble signing up, and jumping to the conclusion that it's the user's fault, might not even be elitist, just dumb.