They ... rejected ... anti-DEI ... making them ... pro-DEI ... and anti-Trump? Am I getting that right? Sorry, there are just getting to be a lot of double-negatives these days it's hard to keep track.
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you're not wrong
Nah, keep with the times!
He isn't not right!
I think you meant to say he isn't not unwrong
The most accurate takeaway is that the shareholders wish for Disney to continue participating in Diversity Equity and Inclusion measures.
The enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.
Fuck this shit, now I gotta be pro Disney too? I'd gotten so used to hating them. They grew on me a little back when they stood up against DeSantis in Florida too.
I miss the days when we could just love/hate corporations based on their business practices instead of culture war bullshit.
It's almost like there were nuances to almost everything instead of the world being neatly divisible into good and bad.
Oh, you get out of here! this is not how the internet works!
It's always more complicated than the binary. Disney might be getting DEI but still forces creators to censor out any LGBT references in their shows, or cancel them if they do them anyway. They still are anti union and work people to the bone.
If you want it simple, no corporation is your friend, ever. They are there simply to take your money, without regard for scruples, and any form of morality they seem to be acting on is either because it will make them more money or it is illegal and not cost effective to break the law.
It's still a good sign the shareholders have some sense in this specific case, but make no mistake, Disney doesn't care about anything other than money.
I mean, Disney is still evil. They probably saw how much Target fucked up and don’t want to make the same mistake.
There’s more money in appealing to everyone instead of just white evangelicals Americans.
Their brand of diversity is some bs anyways so you don't have to be pro Disney.
Remember, they gladly took help from a Chinese concentration camp to make their girl boss Mulan remake.
They also fired all their park workers during covid and gave themselves 10 million bonuses while their workers were surviving on food stamps. Some workers had even signed non compete clauses so they literally could not use their talents elsewhere to feed themselves.
Further more, Disneys current version of DEI is divisive, soulless and insincere.
It isn't a black or white situation. You can hate Disney AND MAGA. To me, they are all two sides of the same rotten coin. Ruthless, selfish and greedy people who use others to get ahead and pull the ladder up after themselves.
They have met their fundamental duty as an organization led by human beings who can and should be held to moral standards.
I despise their behavior with copyright but here they've earned the right to not get the "caved to fascists" boycott
you don't have to love them, you just maybe shouldn't put them at the top of your "FUCK YOU" list. one could argue that their treatment of copyright is a part of what got us here.
Nah, its just more proof that this think tank is shit at making money. Disney doesn't have morals, but it does have a very profitable "princess" marketing strategy. This think tank didn't really read the room very well.
They saw what happened to Target stocks after the boycott and said fuck that.
Boycotts do work, keep it up
It does not even make sense for Disney to be anti-DEI if their target audience is the entire world!
Unfortunately the Trump admin want them to behave a certain way, and anything different is seen as them being mean, apparently.
Looking forward to that "Failing Disney and nasty, perverted Mickey Mouse, going around in shorts" post on Truth Social. If there's one corporation that might even take Donnie down it's Disney. Kinda like Kong vs Dumbzilla
Disney wants as many customers as possible and doesn’t care about temporary optics based on hard right politics. Don’t mistake them for the good guys. Megacorps that buy up everything in sight and use their ridiculous piles of money to exert influence over politics are the core of the problem.
Guess why copyright laws in the US kept adding decades and decades to copyright protection from the death of the creator. HINT: Megacorp money controlling laws may have been involved.
Like all corporations, Disney is a mercenary. Their allegiance lies with whoever puts the bigger number on their cheque.
If MAGA is going to get in the way of Disney trying to make money, I'm more than happy to let Disney fight that battle and waste some cycles
While most of that is true, they actually did let the Mickey Mouse copyright expire, and Mickey as portrayed in Steamboat Willie is now public domain.
But instead they're using trademark. There's a reason they've started using Steamboat Willie in an animated logo.
Maybe that's because "DEI" has become code for "anything done by minorities" and "woke" now means "minorities." With minorites here meaning "not white heterosexual men." Also cis but these snowflakes can't even accept that cisgender is a technical term.
Just 1% of shareholders voted to approve the proposal
1% of shareholders, or the holders of 1% of shares?
This is a great fuckin question and one that's probably more important than we realize
And an easy question to answer - 1% of shares. All businesses weigh shareholder votes by number of shares held.
Conservatives have been worshipping on the altar of Shareholder Value since the 80's.
Guess what? These shareholders just told us all what they value. Think Conservatives will accept it?
Conservative "values" are just cover stories for greed, selfishness and prejudice. They grew up with a set of prejudices and they refuse ever to reexamine them. So they adjust the "values" to suit. Conservatives are incurious, stubborn people who refuse to grow.
I mean they value money...
and apparently they are smart enough to realize that Diversity helps with money, Which makes sense... they are a machine designed to extract money from people...
rich white billionares do not fill up theatres or make a substantial percentage of disney+ and Hulu subscriptions... a group of people that know how to target different demographics will obviously outperform one that targets the hell out of maga fans but doesn't know how to talk to the other 70% of the country.
Probably because they realise that all the companies that ditched DEI have been doing significantly worse. Almost like it's something people want.
Nah, fuck disney. Won't forget their "say no gay" policy. Also, a lot of their "woke" coded content is awful. It feels written by inexperienced writers. It's not genuine and comes across as pandering.
Like damn bro. Timon and Pumba were gay, social outcasts and raised a child together. That shit felt real. Not the stereotype gay l, but just normal... well "normal" characters.
The new stuff doesn't seem to have that. To the point that it feels as though they wanted their work to flop on it.
Kinda has that vibe Sandy from Spongebob had. At first, she was just a normal whacky character. Then Nickelodeon wanted more girl representation and Sandy became pretty much flawless. She wasn't the butt of the joke anymore, while the other characters stayed that way. It made her seem less part of the gang. Unequal to the rest. She became unfun.
So many of the female characters seem flawless and yet unlikable. From star wars series, to the new disney movies. Where is our Katara from Avatar? Where is our Valerie from Danny Phantom? Where are the characters with character?
2 male characters hang out "100% definately gay cause I said so."
They also slept together.
That's not gay, necessarily, lol.
No suprise there. A large portion of Disney's viewers are girls and minorities. You know, those dreaded DEI folk.
This is not about "DEI" it’s about marketing and demographic, in short economic interest, personally i wouldn’t throw them flowers.
You are right, but also, I think it’s okay to take the small victories where they are. They shouldn’t have to be applauded for doing the bare minimum, but when this bare minimum is a big middle finger to the administration I’ll look the other way