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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[–] azalty@jlai.lu 2 points 1 hour ago

Compared to a few years ago, it’s better. Some websites still aren’t indexed, and even by entering their name exactly, they don’t show. Google doesn’t have this problem.

Brave search is also pretty good

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

Good enough for me, although there are times I need to use google.

[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago

It’s just as good as 2008 google, which is all I want.

[–] tfm@europe.pub 3 points 3 hours ago

I like DDG a lot more, especially because of the bang shortcuts. But I transitioned recently to Qwant. It also has bang shortcuts and is hosted in Europe.

[–] BaumGeist@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 hours ago

Yes, I switched back in 2023 and noticed it was already better than google.

All major search engines feel like they're either filled with AI slop results, or just only returning major corporations' sites anymore, though. DDG just falls into the latter, while Google is mostly the former.

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It's my primary but Google unfortunately is often a fallback. And Google is tracking the shit out of us these days. Certain obscure searches don't work well on DDG, sad to say.

Naw. I use Kagi (paid) now, and get much better search results.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 8 points 7 hours ago

I've been using DDG since 2016 and never felt it was worse in terms of "search quality" than Google.

Especially nowadays I hear friends whine near weekly about Google, but it's still somehow "better than DDG".

Honestly people just make excuses not to change what they're use to. Even if what they're used to has changed around them for the worse.

My only real complain I have is I wish 'search by date range' was less finicky use and also worked in the image tab like it does in Google images.

[–] techpir8@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Don't you mean DuckDuckBing ?

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

I just typed "african mouse" into both bing, and ddg. I got EXACTLY the same results. Which I kind of expected . Same order, everything. However, my understanding is, that DDG obfuscates the user, and doesn't track. This is my hope, and why I use it.

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Google is almost unusable for me even with ad block. I've been using DDG for the last 3 or so years now.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago

no. i switch to using it as my primary search engine every once in a while, just to see how it's doing. i always run into situations where i can't find the thing im looking for. maybe im just the obscure searches man

[–] Viskio_Neta_Kafo@lemm.ee 2 points 7 hours ago

Probably so. Haven't used it much but Google has got so much worse. Being filled with adds and irrelevant results that DuckDuckgo probably is better now.

[–] BackwardsUntoDawn@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

No. I was using big for the rewards points for a long time, the results were fine. I switched to kagi for ~6 months and it was good too. Since it's a little expensive I switched to DDG to see if I noticed a difference, it's been a little worse in comparison.

As a general purpose search engine yeah it's just as good. Google has some nice extra features which aren't too important (for example if you search UFC it shows full fight card info and results on the search page).

Where it falls behind is for more "power user " type work. I only use Google at work as it makes finding very specific results with keywords and date ranges on certain sites etc much easier.

Nowadays I use Qwant though to boycott us. It's much slower but still does the job for day to day use.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 18 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

ive been using it consistently for the past few years. it works well for me, but sometimes ill go to other engines just to see what they come up with, or when results are lacking. sometimes they are better, sometimes they are worse.

meaning ddg is probably good enough nowadays, at least for me.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You probably already know this, but you can use search "bangs" to search other websites from ddg.

For example, to search google, you would put !g or !google at the start of your search.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

i do! it transformed my address bar, i sometimes use other engines through ddg now. its the main reason its my search provider.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

It has been for several years now. I rarely use Google now, and when I do, I'm using it out of DuckDuckGo (!g)

[–] Alpha71@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 10 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

You seriously can't type whatever dae means?

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve been online for almost thirty years and have never - knowingly - seen β€œdae” as an abbreviation.

[–] Retropunk64@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I don't believe you. DAE has been an extremely common abbreviation for well over a decade at least.

[–] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

TIL I’m a liar…

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

DAE is a fairly common acronym on online forums, often used in titles such as these. You could have used Google (or DuckDuckGo) to learn its meaning 😊

It's simply "does anyone else."

[–] MrMeatballGuy@feddit.dk 6 points 14 hours ago

Never saw that abbreviation before, but my assumption is it's "does anyone else" since I can't think of anything else that'd make sense in this context

[–] doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml 4 points 14 hours ago (15 children)

I can. Be nice and I might.

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[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

I'd say the same. Google dorks work much better than DDG's filters for site-specific stuff, and generally for things like "search term" but for general searches DDG seems pretty similar.

The only things I've also had worse performance from DDG on compared to Google (in very minimal ways) has been:

  • Highly specific searches (e.g. searching for a diagram of the dimensions of common connector types, DDG shows side-by-sides of connectors, Google does that but also with more diagrams that have dimensions in them)
  • Context but not keyword based searches (e.g. "thing that has x y and z characteristics" returns more relevant results in Google than DDG, very marginally)

And of course, there's always the !s bang to run a search through Startpage (which uses Google) if I'm not getting enough detail.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Definitely not; DDG has always been bad. However, as others have pointed out, Google is getting worse and every day. That said, it's still better than DDG, which isn't saying much.

There are no good search engines anymore. I got tired of having to add site:reddit.com to all or my searches to get actual answers, so now I've resorted to using AI and pretending that it isn't just making up half the shit it spews. Perplexity is a half decent replacement for a search engine; it's more accurate than most and it cites its sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/26764870

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 11 hours ago

Have you tried Kagi? They have their problems, but I think it's better than Google.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

What do people use google scholar for? Use jstor and other specific databases like arxiv

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

Google just got worse.

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