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[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can finally stop calling it GNU/Linux.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Oh good God, Linux is finally old enough to start rusting?! And on BOTH ENDS?

vigorously shakes can of WD-40

[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's extremely unexpected.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The GNU utils weren't written by Canonical so they were doomed from the start.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 59 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not to worry, they'll ship 'em via snap.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago

More likely they will make them dependent on snap so you can't remove snap without breaking the system.

[–] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Wait is this their way to break compatibility with old binaries so that you're forced to use snap?

[–] HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 year ago

They're steadily climbing the test suit:

test coverage

[–] qaz@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The uutils should be compatible so I don't think so

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Check out our new Coreutils! (Snap required)

Seriously though I'm just imagining that Coreutils are now going to be dependent on snap.

I don't think so unless they make their own rust core utils.

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 18 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Is there any actual benefit ?

[–] arjache@fedia.io 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Code written in Rust has been shown to have significantly fewer security vulnerabilities than code written in C. Distributions like Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates, so by switching to Rust-based utils, they can reduce their workload in the long run.

[–] lnxtx@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago

Ubuntu ship a lot of security updates

After introducing the Pro I don't think so.

[–] Harlehatschi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

But looking at the security vulnerability records of gnu coreutils that wasn't really needed. There were like a handful in the last 15 years... So I don't really see a need or benefit here.

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[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (16 children)

It's been proven faster. That's all I personally know.

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@infosec.pub 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Just security and hype afaik.

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[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well the rust project is MIT licensed, so definitely not.

[–] BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought MIT licensing was a good thing?? What am i missing??

[–] UnityDevice@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The success of FOSS can in large part be attributed to copyleft licenses like the GPL. Without the protections of copyleft clauses, software just gets exploited by large corporations and end users are locked out. For just one example, if GNU software had used MIT, the entire free router movement (i.e ddwrt, openwrt and co.) would probably not exist today.

See: Free Software Foundation, Inc. v. Cisco Systems, Inc..

Edit: actually, I think by the time of this specific lawsuit, the sources for wrt54g were already released after community pressure, this article details the history a bit better.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rust is good, rare Ubuntu W. Now stop with the forced use of snaps.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

You think this is a win, but is just another step in the enshittification.

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about licences and FOSS?

[–] fum@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

According to the video it's MIT licence, and they discuss the risk of such a licence vs coreutils usage of the GPL

[–] pglpm@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

This worries me indeed.

[–] Sgarcnl@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Archlinux usually is a bit more reasonable. I don’t understand the forcing. Just makes me love it (archlinux) more!

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago

This is the Linux community's Sophie's choice.

[–] vala@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Literally why? Not even criticizing rust but the GNU core utils are easily some of the most reliable and documented software tools ever written.

Not to mention, looks like the rust core utils are MIT and not GPL.

[–] Vopyr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Literally why?

Because MIT?

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