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Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Monday that Ukraine would have to make concessions over land that Russia had taken since 2014 as part of any agreement to end the war.

Mr. Rubio spoke as he was flying to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, for talks with senior Ukrainian officials, and 10 days after a contentious White House meeting between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky. The Trump administration halted military aid to Ukraine after the blowup, which centered on Mr. Trump’s refusal to include any security guarantees in a proposed deal involving Ukraine’s natural resources.

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[–] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Oh fuck off, Rubio.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 67 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

If someone breaks into your house, kicks your dog and rapes your wife, you don’t negotiate to let them keep your TV. You shoot that fucker between the eyes. That’s what we need to be doing.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 30 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I miss the good old ‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

Pretty sure that was only a thing in movies.

We negotiate with terrorists all the time.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 4 hours ago

US literally funds terrorists, gives them weapons, and gives them CIA training to do terrorism. It's like all these terrorist leaders went to the same school, of Americas.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

‘we don’t negotiate with terrorists’ US.

That US never existed.

[–] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

it did in the movies, in here lies the problem.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

id probably just try to suck their dick or something

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 minutes ago

don't rob my house I'm serious

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 34 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

I don't see any peace deal unless there is security guarantees, it is not peace without guarantees.

This just embolden russia to rape Ukraine again for more lands. Marco Rubio is promoting a forever war.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 14 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Why do you put stock in security guarantees now?

Ukraine had security "guarantees" when Russia invaded because they gave up their nukes that Western nation have not followed through on.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

Memorandum was not really a guarantee. NATO is more of a guarantee, nukes are more of a guarantee. Guarantee means NATO and/or Nukes.

Don't need to believe it will work, Nukes and NATO has worked in the past to maintain peace along russia borders.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

Says the same guys who called Putin the victim while talking with Zelensky...

[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 32 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Without security guarantees, this isn't a "peace" deal, it's a capitulation and an invitation for future aggression from Russia.

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[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t see any peace deal happening that doesn’t involve ceding territory.

That said if I were Zelenskyy I would tell the US to pound sand and find someone else to mediate a more favourable deal, maybe Türkiye.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 minutes ago

Türkiye would love to be the nation that resolves this.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 29 points 11 hours ago

I hope Ukraine doesn’t cede anything at all.

[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

Rubio is a snowflake bitch. As bad as Americans are right now, we're going to eat him in 2-3 years. Stay strong! Slava Ukraine!

[–] bingBingBongBong@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

His mom must cede territory in any piece deal

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 269 points 21 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 116 points 21 hours ago

Yep, it's treason. And it's not just one guy.

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[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 229 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Someone should invade Rubio's house and demand the deed to one of his rooms before they'll leave.

[–] DaveyRocket@lemmy.world 35 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

Why would Ukraine be negotiating with another adversary? That’s like a boxer going to the wrong corner after the round, that guy also wants you to get your ass kicked.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 137 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

FUCK YOU LITTLE MARCO

shithead.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 51 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Has he proved his citizenship?

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[–] rylock@lemm.ee 119 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

"Turns out, Russia doesn't want to concede anything and demanded more Ukrainian land. Well, we tried. Clearly, it's high time for Ukraine to stop getting in the way of peace."

  • Little Marco in a week
[–] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 hours ago

"we've tried nothing and we're already out of ideas"

[–] ChaosInstructor@lemmy.world 21 points 16 hours ago

they are ok with ceding Texas...

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 80 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

At the rate we're going, I wouldn't be surprised if trump drops all sanctions against Russia, and starts even funding them and providing them US weapons and Intel. I just wouldn't be surprised.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 56 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I would assume they're getting the Intel already. The entire administration is comprised of Russian assets and useful idiots. Even if the info isn't being handed to them directly, all the existing security is being ripped to shreds and the teams that would counter any threats have officially been told to ignore Russia completely.

That said, I wouldn’t put it past Trump to publicly give Intel to Russia, but only because he's an idiot and assuming there is a low he won't sink to his always a losing bet.

[–] Geobloke@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

Tulsi probably hitting Putin with "u up ;)"

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[–] Sludgehammer@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I'd say it's a given at this point.

Trump has offended pretty much all of our major trade partners, so we need a new market to sell US goods as well as replace our imports. As it just so happens, Russia desperately needs goods due to the sanctions and has a reduced manufacturing capacity as a result of marching all their young (and not so young) men into a meat grinder. And even though Putin is a backstabbing, murderous, KGB thug Trump knows that he won't touch him, because Trump's just too useful of a flunky.

Granted it's a morally repugnant move, but when has that ever stopped Trump?

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 62 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Likely true if we're being real but... You don't say that outloud you incompetent fucking negotiator.

[–] troed@fedia.io 62 points 21 hours ago (6 children)

Ukraine is winning. That's why Trump has stopped supporting them on request from Putin.

If your news isn't telling you Ukraine are currently stronger on the battlefield, change news outlets.

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