I wish all Americans very congratulations on getting Germany to rearm, something youβve avoided for 70 years
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My fellows are so blind and deep in the cult. I genuinely think it's going to be dictatorship or civil war.
That said, Trump is so effective at being anti-war, that he's got the entirety of Europe re-arming! 10/10
Stg MAGA's had a few lines about how Hillary or Kamala would bring us closer to WW3
And you're only 3 months in! (6%)
Funny enough? The day the government is set to shutdown if not funded.. is day 53 of the administration
It only took Hitler 53 days
That's not funny at all :(
That is not true. Both Germanys did rearm in the Cold War and ended up with massive armies.
But it was split in half. First time since the 40s that a United Germany is a military powerhouse
It's not yet.
Germans are efficient, it wonβt take long.
Although I understand the need, the re-armament of Europe makes me sad. Imagine what we could have done with all this money. Research, culture, decarbonisation, social programs, housing... but instead we have to use it on ways to kill people.
Sad really.
I'm very happy that Europe finally is letting go of the US, but yeah, it's sad to see all this money go to waste.
This money literally wouldn't exist otherwise. Or conversely: We could just make up some more money for housing if we wished to, if the powers that be allowed that. The hard limit is never money, the hard limit is willpower and material resources.
the hard limit is willpower and material resources.
Which money is an accounting mechanism for.
What this actually means is that people will work for tank manufacturers instead of developing civilian EVs or whatever. Same story for the steel and equipment that goes into it.
But this money is willpower and material resources that could be spent elsewhere : research, culture, decarbonisation, social programs, housing...
Though I share your frustration, you just don't get to have most of those things, if your country gets invaded.
And if YOUR country is lucky to be left alone, yet only your neighbouring countries are invaded, that is bound to affect you economically regardless.
From a purely economic perspective, I would think rearming Europe is the least costly thing to do in the long run.
Yes, it's the right call, but it's sad someone's actions have made it necessary, I guess.
Yeah yeah I 100% align with CAVOK initial's comment, this seems necessary to me, but sad because the potential aggressors really seem to make the world worse for everyone but themselves. And by "themselves" I don't mean whole countries, only the sucker leaders.
Material resources are material resources. Money is a declaration of mutual trust that is created in the central bank's computers.
I don't get what you are trying to say? You don't think this money will be used to use material resources and employ people in weapon industry?
That's different from what you said before. ("Money is material resources"). Money can be used to buy material resources, but it is not equal to material resources.
Believing the latter leads to the assumption that money is somehow sparse (for governments) and governments should e.g. reduce social or infrastructure spendings to finance the military instead of taking on debt.
I can totally see how European military expenditures are going to lower the price of eggs.
For those less smart then Trump:
US being unreliable -> EU does not buy US weapons -> US economy weakens -> Americans have less money -> Demand for eggs falls -> egg prices fall
Actually you didn't quite capture the genius of Trump. It goes like this:
US dismantles CDC βΆ Bird flu kills all birds βΆ No more eggs βΆ No more price of eggs
also no more inflation, because you just set the egg price to an arbitrary negative value like -700 USD and it will balance out all the products getting more expensive.
And nothing from that extra spending will go to US military complex. For what it's worth it will probably even go down.