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Grizzly bear kills couple and their dog at Banff National Park in Canada (www.cbsnews.com)
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[-] Spasmolytic@lemm.ee 33 points 1 year ago

Fucking hell. My wife and I wanted to plan our next hiking trip and go to Banff, then started reading about the grizzly threat. It seemed real, and there are so many beautiful places to go, so we dropped it.

Then, about a week ago, a guy in the gym at work is telling me about his trip to Banff where they took their kids along too. I started thinking maybe we should go for it. Now I read this awful news. Suddenly it once more seems like a bad idea.

[-] Stabbitha@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Article says responders killed the bear, so technically it should be safer now...

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Bear attacks are incredibly rare. Bears are usually docile creatures and don't want anything to do with humans.

[-] Spasmolytic@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Is that true of grizzlies? Seems to me they're only docile if they're full.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Yes.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

This is making headline news because of how rare it is. Something to think about.

[-] MadBob@feddit.nl 31 points 1 year ago

Interesting editorial choice to stick a photo of a sick sunrise in the middle of an article about a bear mauling.

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 15 points 1 year ago

"only 14% of grizzly bear attacks are fatal" seems like this just downplays the danger. If a product on the shelves had "only 14%" chance of causing cancer people would be livid.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Considering bears are 8ft long 900lbs killing machines an 86% survival rate is actually pretty fucking good.

Also if you're dumb enough to downplay the danger involving grizzly bears for any reason you're not going to live long anyway

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure that is another way of saying 86% of people can successfully play dead.

Remember folks: If it's black, fight back. If it's brown, lie down. If it's white, goodnight.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Except some black bears are brown, so fight back if it's a brown black bear and lie lie down if it's a brown not-black bear (grizzly)

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago

Ok, but how likely is a grizzly attack?

According to the US Natl Park Service it is 1 in 2.1 million. Dying from a bee sting is more likely.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/article/150916-bears-attacks-animals-science-north-america-grizzlies

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

What an odd correlation: bear attacks and products on shelves.

Are you implying that people might want to purchase bear attacks? Like a carnival ride?

And there are a good number of products that do have a good chance of causing cancer...so...what was your point?

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You seem to not understand that there are idiots that see a bear and think it’s perfectly ok to go up and pet it like a dog.

[-] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“Sharks don’t actually try to kill humans, they just get curious and take exploratory bites”

Obviously that’s not a direct quote, but I people say things like it in defense of sharks frequently.

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[-] HubertManne@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Well also if your spine is cracked but your alive, its not fatal.

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[-] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

See, stuff like this is why I stay inside. The bears can have the outdoors.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

The bears can share the outdoors with people. This story is light on details but bear spray is considered the best defense against bear.

I've camped many times in bear country and slept in a tent. I kept bear spray with me at all times and fortunately had no problems...knock on wood. Most of the time it is OK but you have to be intelligent about it. Don't leave food out, carry bear spray, stay away from bear as much as possible, etc.

Also, there are plenty of great outdoor places you can go that don't have bear. Not saying they're risk free, almost nowhere is risk free. But there are "safer" parks, etc. (not "safe", just "safer").

I would never want to be only stuck inside. There's too much amazing to see outside.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Bear balls! That's what my wife and I use (along with bear spray and a 10mm). Little jingly balls you hook into your backpack. Now just walking makes a continuous noise.

[-] Very_Bad_Janet@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Do bears not like bells? Wouldn't it draw them to you (like a dinner bell)?

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Most wild animals don't want random interactions with strange noises. They will avoid as much as possible. Grizzlies and black bears don't usually "hunt". I'm unsure how effective it would be with polar bears or if it would draw them in. But your prep for going to an area with polar bears should be not going to the area with polar bears.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Avoid polar bear. Just stay away: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_danger

[-] amiuhle@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What's the difference between black and brown bear poop?

spoilerOne has fruit stones in it, the other one contains bear bells.

Edit: it makes sense to make oneself heard, the worst thing that can happen is quietly walking around a corner and there's a bear with two cubs close by.

Bear bells are a bit annoying and clapping or just talking to each other also works. Humans are not considered bait for bears and they will usually try to avoid you.

There are good books about avoiding bear attacks when in the backcountry.

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[-] WhipTheLlama@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Staying inside is no defence against bears.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT5LI21dY_4

[-] protovack@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

a shotgun is probably the only thing that would've saved them. or, just choosing not to hike in bear country at this time of year. This is when the more desperate bears will eat anything that moves. They aren't picky, and playing dead will not save you if a bear is extremely hungry, as they are in drought conditions. just a tragic reminder that bears can and will kill, and eat you under certain circumstances.

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