Currently there's only 3 big players when it comes to maps. You've got Google, Apple and Microsoft. > > Let's try to make OpenStreetMap the best map there is. Go grab StreetComplete and start mapping your surroundings when you're out and about. > > All the data is under a public license and managed by a non-profit foundation in the UK. > > It's very easy to get started, and quite addictive.

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[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

I love OSM. Way more than google.

For hiking and cycling it is absolutely supreme to google in every way. Google will often just send you a "car-path" by foot or bike, while OSM will try to steer you to smaller, slower roads/paths (and way more of those are mapped on OSM then on google).

The main issue on OSM for me is the lacking up-to-date business information... If OSM shows shops on maps: don't rely on it. It would be very interesting if the business/reviews/pictures etc part of google maps could somehow make it (open source version) to OSM.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago

Apple isn't a real competitor. Apple maps is like 75% OSM.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

OpenStreetMap is incredibly important. So many map applications and project composed from open-data is dependent on OSM (yes, european alternatives to map applications heavily depend on open-data of OpenStreetMap which is actually a database of geographic information, not only the map layer you often see).

I posted awhile ago about Organic Maps which also allows you to edit certain information. But StreetComplete is more fun :)

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft and Apple use OpenStreetMap to an extent. Even TomTom uses it and, probably, Google. The better we make it, though, the less value adds other players can claim and no one can monopolize good street map data.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yup. IIRC google mostly uses the data to fill in their own datasets and to double check nowadays (used to depend more on OSM).

But also every European product / FOSS project depending on OSM gets better with every contribution from people to OSM!

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

While I have seen anecdotal evidence for GMaps monitoring chabges in OSM to keep their data up to date, the only "filling in of Gmaps with OSM" I'm aware of is where they used a government dataset that itself was using the OSM license.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That could very well be. I don't have any sources at the moment to prove anything and base it on memory of reading about it somewhere that Both Google and Apple used to more heavily depend on OSM data but over time introduced contractors and more advanced remote-sensing/satellite imagery analysis.

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

Google never used OSM intensively. Apple has in some regions, but I'm not sure how it has evolved over the years.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 1 points 22 minutes ago

Ahh okay, maybe I mix Google with Apple then, or possibly even Bing Maps from Microsoft?

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 15 hours ago

Please contribute to this great cause.

I've been using StreetComplete for over a year now, on and off (currently globally ranked #1555 & #132 in my country 🙂) and it's so easy to use.

It's a great feeling to add a local shop / cafe's opening times and then see that in OSM.

Similarly my house (and close neighbours) didn't appear in the map of our local village, so I worked out how to edit in the OSM website and our houses, inc. house numbers are now there so deliveries are now more reliable.

Just a little bit by a few people and it makes the world a better place.

[–] Comtief@lemm.ee 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Did streetcomplete.app get a hug of death? It's down right now. Anyway, sounds like a cool idea to map it. Anyway, looks like osmand app has a plug in for it too, neat.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

The EU needs to create a backup to google earth engine and microsoft planetary computer, right now.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago

!osm@feddit.uk

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm going to contribute! Thank you!!!

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What's a good open street map app that I can use? Similar to Google maps.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As the OSM data is freely available, a lot of apps build on it.

Try:

OsmAnd - comprehensive (I've seen it described as a GIS) but a bit more complicated and can be slower
Organic Maps - more streamlined and much faster
Magic Earth - one of the best for car journeys

Best is to download them and see which work best for your uses and location.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I prefer Organic Maps over Google for navigation pathfinding and interface. It doesn't do any of the flipping back and forth on route selection. It tells you your exit well ahead of time including exit number every time. None of the "in 13km stay on the road you're already on" annoyance.

The only thing Google Maps has better is their access to user GPS tracking data and user saturation, so they can identify slowdowns and reroute.

[–] drizzlius@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

For android users: Get osmand from f-droid instead of the google play store. When I installed from the google play store I ran into an map area download limit which does not seem to be there on the f-droid distribution.

[–] joostjakob@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

They have a team of employees working on the app and the hosting of servers to package the data in downloadable files also costs money. So consider donating if you don't want to use the Play version.

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago

Yes, the Play Store version only allows live updates for OSM contributors (up to a point and, once there have been enough it is free for all), whereas the F-droid version has no such restrictions.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Some cool web apps using OSM data:

https://cartes.app/ https://lokjo.com/

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if you wanna go even deeper:

https://every-door.app/

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 15 hours ago

Or even deeper:

https://vespucci.io/

[–] UrbonMaximus@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Apologies if I'm missing something, but is there no live version? Do we have to download the local area? (OSMand)

[–] madnificent@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, you have to download the local area. Processing happens on your phone.

Organic Maps is a bit smoother to get started with but I'm very happy with OSM& now I have it set up as I want and was also glad to have it when renting a boat on vacation. If you're new, try Organic Maps first.

[–] jlow@beehaw.org 1 points 1 day ago

Yes, Osmand is for offline use, download the area(s) you need. Same goes for OrganicMaps.