I would be cautious to trust an American company just because they are non-profit. We know that if they get sufficiently big they can just transition into being for profit (see OpenAi), chances are regulations regarding this won't become stronger later.

Signal being open source of course helps, but it's usually the ecosystem that people grow to rely on that keeps them in place, not the technology. Just look at how big Reddit is compared to Lemmy for a good example of that. If signal was federal that would be quite different since jumping ship would be easy.

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[–] addie@feddit.uk 11 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Got me an AMD Tuxedo laptop and some Raspberry Pi's, and my gaming desktop is all AMD too. Fuck Intel and NVidia.

I was avoiding everything made in the States before it was cool

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

??? Bluesky is an american comany what the hell are they on about

[–] fbr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There’s a footnote on Bluesky and Signal that says that they are American non-profits.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

One note on Bosch and the European car manufacturers: They're funding the Orbán government among others.

[–] vandsjov@feddit.dk 8 points 5 days ago

More info on this, please

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's a shame it needed someone like Trump to actually get European alternatives more attention. They needed attention way before Trump.

Also the food and drinks alternatives are a bit odd. Many brands on the European side I don't recognize, probably because they're pretty local to whoever made this list.

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[–] index@sh.itjust.works 11 points 5 days ago (5 children)

First time i see this sub on the frontpage.

You should boycott evil corporations regardless of where they are from, don't make it a nationalistic thing, some of the alternative suggested here are as much bad as their usa counterpart. You are not achieving shit by switching from nike to adidas...

[–] moody@lemmings.world 7 points 5 days ago (3 children)

The last line on the document says "Perfect is the enemy of good. Every little bit counts."

It's pretty apt. To deal with this particular issue it makes sense to divest from one country to another regardless of brands. Divesting from mega corporations is another issue entirely and beyond the scope of this boycott.

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[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

The snacks section could use a lot of chocolates but then again as European it's hard to find American chocolate: Milka, Ferrero Rocher, Lindt, Tony's Chocolonely, Callier... Just to name a few.

I was surprised to see Toblerone on the American side, apparently they're under an American company nowadays! TIL
Also, Logitech isn't Chinese? Huh, TIL as well

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[–] OrkneyKomodo@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Mmm... ditch Garmin, strap a raspberry pi + car battery to your arm, & away you go.

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[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

L for Proton mention.

CEO is fascist loving boot licker

Edit: company rescinded statement Andy Ten Yen made

[–] blueeggsandyam@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Fastmail is a good non US alternative. Based in Australia.

For those that don’t know about Proton. Proton CEO said “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” The company then doubled down on a Reddit post which it eventually deleted.

You have to be blind or a liar to look at what the Republicans have done in the last 10 years and think they pro little guy.

Despite claiming political neutrality, Proton later issued a statement reiterating its support for stronger antitrust measures, particularly against Big Tech. The company noted that regardless of broader political views on the Republican platform, the appointment of Gail Slater as head of the Justice Department’s antitrust division under Donald Trump was a positive step.

So they don’t care how bad the government is as long as it helps them. So not a Nazi but willing to support them if they can get something out of it. Furthermore it is also not true. The US under Trump has threatened Europe multiple times to defend big Tech.

Proton further argued that major tech companies were attempting to align with Trump because his administration posed an “unprecedented challenge to their monopolistic dominance.” This statement only fueled concerns that Proton was leaning politically despite its claims of neutrality.

They don’t seem to understand what politically neutral is. Also if you wanted a president that went after big tech, Biden did way more than Trump:

Under President Biden, the DOJ and FTC have taken a more aggressive approach to antitrust enforcement.

The Justice Department filed another suit against Google over its dominance in the advertising technology space and sued Apple for allegedly monopolizing the smartphone market.

Biden’s FTC also sued Amazon for antitrust violations, accusing the e-commerce giant of engaging in anticompetitive behavior to dominate the online retail space.

Proton also lied about logging user data.

In 2021, Proton Mail admitted to handing over a user’s IP address to Swiss authorities following a request from French law enforcement via Europol. This revelation contradicted Proton’s earlier claims that it did not log user data.

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[–] SleafordMod@feddit.uk 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

HMD could be mentioned in electronics, they're Finnish and they make smartphones. The CPUs in some of their phones are from Unisoc who are Chinese; maybe some people would want to know that. In their other phones they use Qualcomm CPUs, and Qualcomm are American.

Also there are more alternatives to American goods/services outside of Europe, e.g. goods/services from places like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.

E.g. South Korean cars (Hyundai and Kia) or Taiwanese electronics (Asus, Acer, MSI).

[–] Krik@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

he CPUs in some of their phones are from Unisoc who are Chinese

AFAIK you can't make a phone without some Chinese components.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Imo the best European (specifically German) made OS is OpenSUSE. Its Sway spin is the definition of functionality above form, nearly all tools are designed with that in mind and it comes with good defaults out of the box. Granted it also looks amazing if not a tad dated, the unified design and color language however is nice even if that color is green. Also consider donating to the FSFE rather than the FSF.

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[–] florge@feddit.uk 8 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Pretty sure Qwant just uses Bing's index for search

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Same goes for Ecosia though both are now creating a European search index.

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

Thank you - from (sadly) an American

[–] UnPassive@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I live in the USA and I will buy foreign as much as possible. Until we make it illegal most likely

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