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Interesting. I wonder if this was due to a request from certain agencies for anything exported.
Bingo. All of these technologies are controlled by ITAR.
I have zero doubt this was for clandestine use internationally and it was almost inevitable. Outside of a back-door there is no way you’re getting access to properly encrypted net with some of the higher end technologies.
ETSI isn’t controlled by ITAR. You’re on the wrong continent.
Sure ETSI are responsible for the encryption standard.
And Motorola is free to use that standard on radio handsets made with components of ITAR controlled items.
The use of any component controlled via ITAR will have the entire unit controlled.
Having used a Motorola product covered by ITAR on “the wrong continent” many times.
ETSI isn’t responsible for “the encryption standard” - they’re responsible for the TETRA standard. TETRA isn’t encryption - it’s a type of radio system, that has encryption as one small part of it. (I know plenty about TETRA - I’ve designed transmission networks for TETRA systems.) I’ve worked on DAMM and Leonardo systems, they’re completely European designed and built, there’s no ITAR regulations on them.
Ah, yes. European radios made by European manufacturers to specifications created by a European agency primarily intended for use in Europe are, in fact, actually being controlled by the US. Am I understanding that correctly?
Yes. See also ASML
For sure. There are plenty of historical prevents for this exact situation. Makes you wonder why anyone would trust exported "secure" technology from America
Ah, I see you're having trouble finding the article. No worries, the link is right up there at the top of the page! I know you'd never intentionally comment before reading the article unless you were struggling to find it; only a redditor would comment without knowing what was being discussed.
Didn’t read the article?
Looking forward to someone bringing this up when discussing the ongoing died-but-somehow-always-revived legislations that would introduce backdoors for encryption for government
Died? The below are all happening right now.
https://9to5mac.com/2023/07/20/apple-imessage-facetime-remove-security-law/
Yeah the ones in EU and UK are kinda fresh, but if I remember correctly, the ones in the US went through different iterations through many years, and keep coming back. There’s also a new-ish one in the US as well I think.
There's a new anti-encryption act in the USA. This page has information about how to oppose it:
The STOP CSAM Act would put security and free speech at risk by potentially making it a crime to offer encryption.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/07/you-can-help-stop-these-bad-internet-bills
Am I the only one annoyed with the sticker not removed from the screen on the picture?
I heard the vendors knew all about it, but most customers were clueless
Well this is pretty problematic!
It’s actually a positive thing since it can be used as an example of why we can’t trust governments with backdoor access to our communications.
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