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Researchers find deliberate backdoor in police radio encryption algorithm | Vendors knew all about it, but most customers were clueless. (arstechnica.com)

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Researchers find deliberate backdoor in police radio encryption algorithm | Vendors knew all about it, but most customers were clueless.::Vendors knew all about it, but most customers were clueless.

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[-] smegger@aussie.zone 29 points 11 months ago

Interesting. I wonder if this was due to a request from certain agencies for anything exported.

[-] bkmps3@aussie.zone 19 points 11 months ago

Bingo. All of these technologies are controlled by ITAR.

I have zero doubt this was for clandestine use internationally and it was almost inevitable. Outside of a back-door there is no way you’re getting access to properly encrypted net with some of the higher end technologies.

[-] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

ETSI isn’t controlled by ITAR. You’re on the wrong continent.

[-] bkmps3@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

Sure ETSI are responsible for the encryption standard.

And Motorola is free to use that standard on radio handsets made with components of ITAR controlled items.

The use of any component controlled via ITAR will have the entire unit controlled.

Having used a Motorola product covered by ITAR on “the wrong continent” many times.

[-] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

ETSI isn’t responsible for “the encryption standard” - they’re responsible for the TETRA standard. TETRA isn’t encryption - it’s a type of radio system, that has encryption as one small part of it. (I know plenty about TETRA - I’ve designed transmission networks for TETRA systems.) I’ve worked on DAMM and Leonardo systems, they’re completely European designed and built, there’s no ITAR regulations on them.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago

Ah, yes. European radios made by European manufacturers to specifications created by a European agency primarily intended for use in Europe are, in fact, actually being controlled by the US. Am I understanding that correctly?

[-] Harrison@ttrpg.network 2 points 11 months ago

Yes. See also ASML

[-] smegger@aussie.zone -2 points 11 months ago

For sure. There are plenty of historical prevents for this exact situation. Makes you wonder why anyone would trust exported "secure" technology from America

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ah, I see you're having trouble finding the article. No worries, the link is right up there at the top of the page! I know you'd never intentionally comment before reading the article unless you were struggling to find it; only a redditor would comment without knowing what was being discussed.

[-] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

Didn’t read the article?

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