Political Memes

I think it's funny that no matter how bad the work shortages will get, it's never going to get to the point where conservatives actually acknowledge the root problem.

There are plenty of young men and women who would love to do hard work outside for decent pay, it's just that corporations like CHS depend on illegally cheap labor and inhumane conditions to make billions of dollars in revenue every year.

There's plenty of money in agriculture, just as there have always been. The scare of increasing food pricing is just a threat to preserve their profit model. Meanwhile we're still paying landowners 30 billion dollars a year not to work their land to maintain profitable prices on food.

volunteers

Crop pickers should make $20+/hr, as should everyone. Relying on underpaid illegal labor forces only helps other corporations to underpay their workers too. We need living wages.

So back to migrant farmers, but without the pay.

My bet is that this is going be an alternative to mandatory military service. Unless the US steals some ideas from the earlier days of the soviet union and makes soldiers dig potato fields.

Nah. They're going to first start with prisoners. We already use prison labor; they start making prisons worse as an inducement to get people to work. Getting out early now requires some prison labor.

Now that the homeless can get arrested, they get processed in the system as well. As states are now incentivized to arrest people, policing becomes much harsher.

States then cut housing benefits to push more people on the street. Children are tried as adults to get them to work.

"pick crops'

"Stewards for the Lord's Harvest"

MAGAd that more for you.

It's amusing that when you ask a "patriot" about the ideal society, they describe the Anarchist moon from the Dispossessed, but only for white people and without all the gay stuff.

In 2022 the Department of Labor estimated, based on 1259 observations, that unauthorized workers make up 37-47% of agricultural workers (95% confidence interval).

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Fifty-eight percent of crop workers interviewed had work authorization in 2021–2022. Among the 38 percent who were U.S. citizens, 83 percent were born in the United States, and 17 percent were naturalized citizens. The remainder of the work-authorized population consisted mainly of lawful permanent residents (18%) with 2 percent authorized through some other visa program.

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The USA is cooked.

I keep hearing about all of these men with no skills who have dropped out of the work force. Well here ya go guys!

Just like the Brexit "patriots", who signed up in their zeros to do farm work..

That's a weird way to refer to slaves

I can't support this vector of mocking what Trump is doing.

What we should be doing is paying whoever is picking our crops a decent wage, undocumented or not. If the wage isn't enough for any citizens or documented immigrants to take the job - that's capitalism at work and wages need to go up.

If prices are going to go up now because there are no undocumented immigrants harvesting for us, then we were already exploiting those people terribly in the first place. (And there really is no if here - I doubt anyone reading this is likely to disagree that we have exploited our undocumented population in this and other areas.)

Whatever the problems are to complain about with Trumps policies, high produce prices due to deportation is not (IMO) one of them. Status quo was already exploitation and unfair labor practices. Let's fix immigration (if we have a country left) when he's done, but let's work on the exploitation, too.

Lmaooo it's like the A-Team all over again

Get out there in the fields, MAGA, let's see how you like it

Canada, America and Mexico should just form into one supranational state like the EU. Mexicans can be farm hands legally, like many Balkans come to Western Europe for seasonal farming, and the state gets development grants; American farms can get cheap labour without having to deal with headache inducing, Kafkaesque labour and immigration bureaucracy, ordinary Americans get free healthcare from Canada and American gun nuts could kill all the cartels they want. Meanwhile, Canada gets military protection from US and can holiday in sunny Cancun visa-free for Christmas.

Win-win!

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