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submitted 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) by Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world to c/europe@feddit.org
 

I had already posted this with a lemm.ee account, and moved here because lemmy.world is hosted in EU, but seems like the post got deleted along with the account. Iโ€™m sorry for the possible spam.

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[โ€“] whyalone@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Proton is based in switzerland, but the ceo just kissed the ring, so do whatever you like

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Dammit, didn't know about that. Any source to see it?

[โ€“] Ihnivid@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

https://lemmy.world/post/24313503

https://lemmy.world/post/24344212

On a sidenote, can we somehow link to lemmy threads so that everyone can access them from their home instance?

[โ€“] nutcase2690@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

I think you can add https://lemmyverse.link/ before the shared url without http

https://lemmyverse.link/lemmy.world/post/24313503

is an example. I saw div0 using this, seems handy! Doesn't quite work with voyager, though unfortunately

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Thank you. There goes my plan to move to Proton for mail, VPN and cloud storage, then ๐Ÿ˜”

[โ€“] Matombo@feddit.org 15 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It's missing lemmy and matrix, but at least they have mastodon listed.

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago (4 children)

Yeah, at least they (supposedly) have a chat to propose stuff. I already proposed EU-hosted Lemmy instances. What is matrix, by the way? First time I heard of it.

[โ€“] Matombo@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

the fediverse chat protocol

started as a seperate project but is spiritually very aligned with the rest of the fediverse

  • federated/decentralized server network
  • seperation between protocol, server, and client application
  • free and open source

so it got "included" to the fediverse (not compatible with ActivityPub)

if you want to try it: https://element.io/ (or other clients: https://matrix.org/ecosystem/clients/ )

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

so the way usernames are managed is @username:instance, so, if I'm in the matrix one, it would be @elrecoal19:matrix.org, and yet I can contact people on other instances like @friend:differentInstance, right?

[โ€“] Matombo@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

yes, that's exactly the idea

it works just like e-mail adresses but for chats

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

okay, thanks for explaining!

[โ€“] vollkorntomate@infosec.pub 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I already proposed some things to them in the past. They responded really quickly and added my suggestions right away. I just wrote them a private message on Mastodon: @european_alternatives@mastodon.social

[โ€“] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 hours ago

Good to hear

[โ€“] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Its a chat protocol with encryption build in. Its like Discord and/or Whatsapp like.

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

That sounds nice, only bad thing is most people probably still don't use it.

[โ€“] Matombo@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Afaik they are the only ones currently who at least anonced that they want to implement the DMA (EU law) enforced WhatsApp chat interoperability: https://element.io/blog/the-eu-digital-markets-act-is-here/

So there is hope that at least in europe this could become an alternative.

[โ€“] Matombo@feddit.org 2 points 3 hours ago

fun fact: some german institutions hosting unfederated servers (or only internaly federated servers) to use the matrix protocoll for internal communication: https://element.io/matrix-in-germany

[โ€“] johannes@lemmy.jhjacobs.nl 5 points 13 hours ago

Well, there are some great opensource software projects that are on the Matrix network. Look at matrix.org :) I host my own server for some friends, just like i host my own Lemmy etc.

[โ€“] illi@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

Should be like an alternative to Discord. Don't really use it so can't judge how it holds up

[โ€“] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

linkdeponie@feddit.de

FYI: feddit.de ist dead, the big german-speaking instance is feddit.org now.

[โ€“] CAVOK@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Perhaps peertube should be in the list too? At least the European instances?

[โ€“] Elrecoal19_0@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Agree, here there is a list of peertube instances:

https://instances.joinpeertube.org/instances

And a few of the ones with most users and videos are European, too

[โ€“] Rokin@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago

I checked it out when you posted it before and I'm so glad the site exists. I would very much encourage everyone to use it and the services and products listed.

[โ€“] Sgarcnl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 15 hours ago

I suppose its worth a shot. Support the local is always a good thing when the other guys are sympathising