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Sony asking Gaming Heads to destroy all Playstation merchandises, including those have been paid and ready to be shipped (which Sony has received royalty payment for) (www.resetera.com)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by sub_@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org
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Here's the screenshot of the letter from Gaming Heads to the communityimage

Here's the alt-text for it:

OPEN LETTER TO THE SONY PLAYSTATION COLLECTING COMMUNITY

On this The Last of Us Day, we regret to inform you and the SONY PlayStation collecting community that SONY has told us to destroy all of our SONY PlayStation merchandise, including in-stock items e.g. The Last of Us Part II: Ellie statues, Jak 3 statues, God of War statues / busts etc.), items ready to ship to you (i.e. the Sly Cooper (Classic edition) statue), items in production (i.e. The Last of Us: Ellie & Joel diorama) and items in development and ready to launch (e.g. Bloodborne and Ratchet & Clank statues). Yes, this also includes destroying items you have paid for and are waiting to ship to you.

All of our other items (i.e. all non SONY PlayStation items) are fine and are not affected by SONY PlayStation's decision.

We have worked with SONY PlayStation for more than 10 years to bring you some of the best video game collectibles and have been trying hard to get them to change their mind. They know you have paid your hard-earned money for items that are ready to ship to you or that are in production but unfortunately, after doing all that we can, they have told us not to ship your orders to you - "our business priorities remain unchanged" (a recent direct quote from SONY).

Yes, this is SONY PlayStation's decision, not ours.

Yes, we want to ship your Jak 3, TLOU2 Ellie, TLOU Ellie & Joel, Sly Cooper and Kratos statues/bust to you but SONY PlayStation does not allow it.

Yes, SONY PlayStation has already received royalty payments from you on your orders that SONY PlayStation now wants us to destroy and not ship to you.

We sincerely apologize if you find yourself in this completely avoidable situation, but please contact Judy Ward (Commercial Partnerships | Sony Interactive Entertainment) at Judy.Ward@sony.com about your (now cancelled) order, payments, refunds etc. and what they will do for you. This is the team at SONY PlayStation that requires the destruction of the items you have ordered, paid for and on which SONY PlayStation has already received royalties from you but will now not allow us to ship your orders to you.

Together we made it through Covid lockdowns, factory closures (it effected production of the Sly Cooper statue, the Kratos (Norse) bust and caused countless delays with other statues), and many other challenges but it seems that you cannot change a decision of SONY PlayStation even if the decision may hurt the SONY PlayStation collecting community

We remember SONY PlayStation's old tagline that they are 'for the Players' ... but given their recent decision that they know adversely affects those in the collecting community willing to spend more on SONY PlayStation merchandise than an actual console, we are now not so sure.

We again sincerely apologize for this extremely disappointing situation but continue to work with our other licensing partners to bring the best video game collectibles to you and to the rest of the collecting community.

Thank you for your continued support.

THE IP FACTORY 10 LIMITED

26 SEPTEMBER 2023

6 images of Sony IP action figures are shown on the letter, from left to right, top to bottom:

  • Jak & Dexter with Jak holding an assault rifle,
  • Ellie from The Last of Us 2 holding a machete,
  • Ellie and Joel from The Last of Us with Ellie holding a bow
  • Sly Cooper holding a hook like weapon
  • A bust of bearded Kratos from God of War
  • A non-bearded Kratos sitting on a throne

I assume, maybe because Sony wants to sell merchandise on their own? Who knows

Personally, I feel like Sony has been becoming more and more hostile towards their customer base, and greedy. It definitely feels like PS3 era hubris, and probably even worse. With the recent drastic price hike for PS+, and now this, it feels like Jim Ryan wants to fatten his payout by the end of the year.

Edit: Apparently people on reddit are saying that Gaming Heads is a shady / unprofessional company that sometimes take payment without shipping the products. So maybe there's a good reason for it?

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[-] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

Having trouble giving Sony the benefit of the doubt these days, but this move just seems odd. I imagine destroying unsold merchandise is fairly common when an agreement ends, but merchandise that was sold, but not shipped? From the letter, it seems like their agreement with Sony was suddenly terminated, which usually doesn't happen without cause. If it was just a normal case of the license expiring you would think Gaming Heads would be aware of that in advance. Also, sending disgruntled customers after a Sony employee who may or may not have signed off on the decision doesn't look like a good move. Definitely curious to see if more comes out about this.

[-] falsem@kbin.social 50 points 1 year ago

I feel like they've left out a lot of context

[-] thepianistfroggollum@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah, businesses like Sony don't just kill a free source of revenue on a whim.

[-] ITSTRUEDOE@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yep arrogant Sony from the PS3 era is 100% back under Jim Ryan's control. Absolute shame after what Shawn Layden, Andrew House and Shu built up through the PS4 generation.

Edit: Hours after I said this, Jim Ryan has stepped down as CEO...

[-] JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 year ago

Reading comments it sounds like there is more to this. GamingHeads sounds pretty shady, not completing orders, bad support, etc. Also this open letter is pretty unprofessional.

I'm not a big Sony fan but this seems like it isn't necessarily an example where Sony is the asshole!

[-] gk99@beehaw.org 34 points 1 year ago

Not allowing to ship out paid orders is not forgivable no matter the situation imo.

[-] sanpo@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

Sure, but if they weren't allowed to sell these items in the first place it's on them, not Sony.

This really looks like a company trying to stir up drama in their favor by withholding important context.

[-] WagesOf@artemis.camp 15 points 1 year ago

They're trying to weasel out of paying refunds, as if it makes any difference who told them to do what. They have to issue refunds for merchandise not delivered and then sue Sony for damages.

[-] SenorBolsa@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it were me I'd just tell them they have the choice between refunding me or me issuing a charge back since they didn't deliver the product, I know which is preferable to them...

It's really none of the customers problem why you can't deliver, unless they are somehow being difficult, you are obligated to make the customer whole on the transaction which is a contract.

If they took care of me I'd happily email Sony and tell them they are being dicks (in a brutal but classy way), but these guys are probably cut off for a reason.

[-] Tibert@compuverse.uk 12 points 1 year ago

From what I'm reading, it's Sony cutting ties with a s* company.

In the open letter they also ask to contact Sony to get refunds, which is not at all how it works. And GamingHeads should be the one giving refunds. They then manage with Sony.

From comments I can read on the website and reddit, it seems that statues were taking a very long time to ship (5 years).

Tho destroying ready to ship products isn't great either.

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't call this latter unprofessional. It makes their position clear.

It's an other story whether what they say is true

[-] ono@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey OP: Please don't use ``` code fences (or 4-space indentation) for things that aren't computer code, unless you hate your readers.

Here's that text with word wrap enabled:

(Edit: Removed the text, because OP updated their copy to allow word wrap. Thanks!)

[-] sub_@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago

Thanks, I wanted to do quote, but somehow it breaks the newline. I'll edit my post to use yours instead, thank you!

[-] janAkali@lemmy.one 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's a separate syntax for quotes in markdown:

> This is a quote.
whole paragraph is still a quote with a single '>'
and even newlines are preserved and long lines are perfectly soft-wrapped, isn't it useful?
>
> empty lines should have '>' if they're part of quote

> this is a separate quote, because line above doesn't have '>'

This is a quote. whole paragraph is still a quote with a single '>' and even newlines are preserved and long lines are perfectly soft-wrapped, isn't it useful?

empty lines should have '>' if they're part of quote

this is a separate quote, because line above doesn't have '>'

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 12 points 1 year ago

Sounds like someone wasn't able to ship product and had their licensing pulled...

[-] Blastasaurus@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

Perhaps the toys are made with toxic materials?

Seems like an odd move otherwise.

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 8 points 1 year ago

Posting the email of a Sony manager like that is not just "burning bridges", this is "air raid on the bridge and the cities nearby". Probably they just filed for bankruptcy or something like that, because when you tell customers to direct their rage to a specific manager, nobody else would ever want to do something with you

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Surely they will arrange another shipment later? What's happening?

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