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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The fact that he's a Nazi shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. He's named after a character in a book written by a very famous Nazi, his fortune comes from Apartheid South Africa, his grandfather was a leader of a pro-Hitler fascist movement in the '30s and '40s.

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

His fortune is built on seed money from apartheid south africa. How is it news he has a nazi fetish?

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's not news to anyone paying attention, but that weird Tesla fanatic uncle is going to find it a bit harder to rationalise an actual unambiguous world-famous Nazi gesture. We've even got those worshippers over here, and anyone reasonable who was on the fence with their pro-Musk proselyting can't overlook something this clear.

They can and will ignore it.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

but that weird Tesla fanatic uncle is going to find it a bit harder to rationalise an actual unambiguous world-famous Nazi gesture

We're already seeing their responses in the wild. They're just denying it was a Nazi salute. And playing the "woke cancel culture leftists are taking him out of context" card.

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 3 points 3 days ago

And playing the “woke cancel culture leftists are taking him out of context” card.

An Australian neo-Nazi speaker recently pulled this coward move too, laughably. (Context: in their jurisdiction, the salute is illegal*).

Nazi promotion event 1: After [...] performing the Nazi salute, Mr Richardson asked the crowd if he was “going be fined now”. [1]

Nazi promotion event 2: i-i was just waving at my friend Beryl in the back row and they screencapped it out of context, it wasn't a salute :( leftism gone mad

Don't worry, antifascists bashed their office door in on Christmas regardless.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Many will find a away to overlook it. Even some commenters in this post found a way.

[–] andrewth09@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I cannot understand the true believers. The people who are saying (1) its a Roman salute or (2) its a "My heart goes out to you" gesture.

They can twist themselves into knots with any other conspiracy theory, but cannot imagine the richest/smartest man to ever exist could figure out how to throw out a plausibly deniable Nazi salute.

This is Sideshow Bob explaining his DIE BART DIE tattoo.

We are being gaslit by half a country. That was a Nazi salute.

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

there are 2 salutes in the USA, o7 and hand over heart. This was very explicitly what it "appears to" be, and there is no excuse.

[–] Weirdfish@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've always wondered what o7 was all about, thanks.

[–] Kyatto@leminal.space 5 points 3 days ago

you are welcome~

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

O7 commander

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] realitista@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Mask off Musk on

[–] FromPieces@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Just in case anyone might argue it wasn't a Nazi salute, he turns to face his fascist lord and repeats the gesture with precision. A crisp and clean fascist salute.

The fuck is this shit?

[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

Just in case you were unclear. Although some people will pretend to be confused and that this is ambiguous.

[–] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

Death to amerikkka

[–] drascus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

So at what point do you actually become a Nazi is it when start doing the seig heils or do you need to be like goose stepping down the street first?

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No shit, he actually did haha

Or he fucked up his dab

[–] vind@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

he did it twice, with the hand going from the chest out. No chance it was accidental

[–] Woht24@lemmy.world -3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mski@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The post you commented on links to the video... If you need an alternate link, here's the video on NBC: https://www.nbcnews.com/video/elon-musk-delivers-remarks-at-trump-s-inaugural-rally-229787717860

[–] EmilieEvans@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not even a well-executed one either. I suppose back in the dark days he would be beaten up for this performance/disrespect to the Führer.

Stunning is also the TV commentary going in the direction of he had no idea it was the Hitler salute (to be fair two weeks prior he called Hitler a communist in a talk/interview with the chancellor candidate of the German neonazi party) ...

Not knowing a thing about a movement that killed millions and happened within the last 100 years is bad. Being rich doesn't mean being educated & civil.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

The man has nothing but time and money. He has seen more videos of the Third Reich than most people, guaranteed. He is not an ignoramus, he's a well informed and highly effective grifter who needs an ideology that supports his self worth in the face of his contradictions and cog dis.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth -3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's called the Bellamy salute and it's as American as Apple pie

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for you, context matters. No matter how American this used to be you can't plan to do a salute like this without planning for it to have clear connotations with the Nazi salute.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately for you

satire is dead, I know.

downvotes on ML for 'America bad' didn't seem right. I thought you people defederated.

[–] Donkter@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately for you, you repeated a talking point that is common right now even among purported leftist with no indication that it's satire. It makes sense that the community reacted the same exact way they would to people they don't want in this community who post that stuff unironically.

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Later, during the 1920s and 1930s, Italian fascists and Nazi Germans adopted a salute which was very similar, attributed to the Roman salute, a gesture that was popularly believed to have been used in ancient Rome. This resulted in controversy over the use of the Bellamy salute in the United States. It was officially replaced by the hand-over-heart salute when Congress amended the Flag Code on December 22, 1942.

But yes, an obscure salute that was only used for a couple of decades over 80 years ago is very American...

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 days ago

lol i just knew elon simps were going to say "ackshually this is a roman salute 🤓🤓"

[–] Bearsly@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago

Unlikely he would have known that one, being from South Africa, even at his age.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

Genocide Joe & Kamala Cheney must be really proud