Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"
Makes me feel a lot less confident about having a protonmail account. Best alternatives for privacy?
this post was submitted on 15 Jan 2025
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Keep in mind this is only one of five board members of the Non-Profit that owns Proton AG
Still a decision maker and able to convince other members though.
still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you're cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise
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Perhaps riseup if youre an anarchist or posteo if youre willing to pay a low fee?
I use posteo myself. Its alright and reliable. Would try Riseup (kinda got political) but idk anyone to ask for an invite code
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Best? Hosting an encrypted email server in your own house. As a service, mailfence seems to be a decent alternative
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I guess Andy or the proton social media team has started using the corporate bluesky account to discuss it now.
Oof, using the Official brand account to post shit like this? 🤨
Did the other 4 board members of his Non-Profit organization (that owns Proton AG btw) approve this, or did Andy Yen got too comfortable and see himself as a king?
Absolutely big off to post that shit from an official account. He's not the only one working at Proton and this is not going to play well with proton users.
I'm seriously thinking about looking at alternatives. He must've gotten too much money now and gone republican.
interesting that it's deleted now
anyone got a screenshot?
Wow they really need to get in check. I do have the screenshots
Hilarious, talks about corporate Dems yet is supporting corporate Republicans. Elon Musk is arguably the face of big tech and so acting like Trump is going to 'do something' to big tech is also delusional. Big tech has already gotten out the checkbooks and kissed the ring down in Florida.
Thiel, Musk, Zuck, and Bezos among others.
It's beyond parody that you'd pretend Republicans aren't owned by corporate and tech interests, I quite frankly don't believe he believes it.
ugh gross they think trump, who has big tech ceos lining up at his door, or the republicans, who want to kill encryption and vpn accesses are going to tackle big tech? welp time to get a refund.
We didn't get what we wanted so we choose evil.
Never used em but i feel for people who did.
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No one going to comment the Trump absolutely did not write that? Read it; completely coherent, proper English, all that.
Not one all caps word. No fuckin way he wrote that.
Well... The word "FAIRLY" was written in all caps.
Was considering them, now I'm not. I'll keep using mullvad.
Yikes. I was just about to shell out for Proton VPN, but now I won’t.
Speedrun any% to kiss that ring
I was wondering, is proton as trustworthy as everybody says? I generally dislike it because its closed source, but that makes sense considering they have to host servers. but this makes it seem... uncredible. any alternative to protonmail?
I generally dislike it because its closed source
I mean, the user clients are open source (right? correct me if I'm wrong). So if you compile it yourself, it should be safe.
So for the contents of email, drive, calandar, those things should be safe. They could secretly keep a log of metadata and IP addresses, tho. The VPN, yea that is basically just requiring trust
Also, Proton AG is now controlled by a Non-Profit organization, Andy Yen is only one of the five board members.
Proton better shut this dude up as I really don't want to find a new platform :|
bad news, Proton’s official reddit account doubled-down on it as a company position (edit: but it was also him too)
ugh, gross. i just signed up for a month to try and get away from google and the rest of the us companies bending the knee. how to trust proton that they won't give up your data the second trump asks now? time to get a refund and put it toward infomaniak sigh
I just dislike that they had to take a political stance at all. Companies and celebrities should stay out of politics and focus on what they're good at/known for.
Don't agree completely. Celebrities are people too, they can use their voice to do good and activate people with regards to politics. Kinda cruel to just say "focus on what you're known for, which is a pretty face. I don't care about anything else that makes you human"
I feel like the rules are different here. This dude is not a celebrity, he is a CEO of a company which mission is to provide a secure and private email service. I don't care about him as a person, he represents his company here. His job is to make sure that the data of his customers does not get in the wrong hands, and being as apolitical as possible is part of it. (Unless it's speaking up against laws that will undermine his business such as banning encryption, but that's not what's happening here).
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I mean, I don't agree with his politics. But this opinion is no different than telling football players to shut up and play football when they were speaking out against systemic violence against minority black communities.
Echo the disagreement. Yes it makes like more complicated, but it is important to know who/what you are supporting.
Not normalizing traitors to the species isn't exactly "political", it's the lowest imaginable bar, and he couldn't clear it.
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FFS. Unfortunately there really isn't a good alternative to Proton right now (don't @ me about Tuta until you've seen how much downtime they had recently).
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I believe that but it would be good to have a source and an archive of the original tweet.
https://x.com/andyyen/status/1864436449942110660
https://archive.is/l1WYU (idk why archive.is is taking so long to archive it... but wait a bit and the archived link should be up)
Not the first time, he also paised trump for... checks notes posing for a photo right after he (supposedly) got shot.
https://x.com/andyyen/status/1812442643726537182
Like that was the dumbest thing to do after getting shot, standing out in the open so a second shooter have time to aim again, how is that worthy of a praise?
But keep in mind, this guy is only one of five board members of the Non-Profit organization that owns Proton AG.
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They use examples of when they did pro-left actions in the apology and explanation , but they never once proclaimed with their official account support for the left, and that's the difference.
The apology and explanation fell way short of the mark. He tried to appease the facists and alienated Proton top clients.
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