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[–] psyklax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This is the real reason for the ban.

"National security" just translates to "public opinion of the war(s)"

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[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 39 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Mitt Romney might just be the only member of the GOP with at least a single honest bone in his body.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 36 points 10 months ago (2 children)

So that's who the democrats will run in 2028

[–] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Irritatingly plausible. I'm going to be stoked if we get another election at all though.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

We will. A free and fair one, though? Outlook not so good.

[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

What’s the point of elections when it’s always already pre bought? AIPAC already bought everyone who would run for election; however, something happened on twitter and Trump and his goons are really upset at israel now.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well we'll have an actual primary if there's an election so if he gets through a democratic primary, that's on democrat voters. I also don't think he wants to run.

[–] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

very funny to see the results of the last few dem primaries and still think that voters choose who the candidate will be

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 31 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, its just nice when they're honest about it.

US republicans will be like: "8 men should own this country and everyone else can die in the gutter". US democrats will be like: "We need to reframe the conversation about the lived experiences of so many of our constituents, and reach solutions that include these realities [policies not different from those above]".

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are evil fucks too. But not evil enough that I’m going to give Mitt Romney any credit.

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

They're evil enough. If complete support for yet another genocide isn't "evil enough" I wonder what might do it.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

The least evil fuck is still an evil fuck.

[–] beek@beehaw.org 10 points 10 months ago

This isn’t a statement rooted in honesty or morality. This is saying the quiet part out loud.

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I guess I am going to give my kids access to my VPN I don't trust the government at all any more

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You should absolutely have your kids use a VPN.

[–] Trilobite@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah I have it set up on the home network I just never set it up on their cells

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 10 months ago

Palestinians getting to broadcast the horrors visited upon them by zionists is bad. /s

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago

The second someone starts showing American war crimes they are a security risk. But Americans somehow still believe in free speech.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Everyone moving to The Little Red Book (or "RedNote") is creating some very funny interactions, lmao. Super cute honestly

[–] CentauriBeau@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

What happened to us (Americans)? We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech. Now we’re burning books and outlawing news sources that don’t abide by the official propaganda. It’s sickening.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Because our empire is collapsing

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Entropy will not be denied.

Rome always fall to the corruption of its elite run amuck.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Don't forget the lead poisoning. Something else America has in common with the Romans.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

The US has always had propaganda and book burning, it's just really good at projection. Hell, even D&D was attacked for being "satanic."

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago

Lol, classic American. Sees Americans doing bad things in America in a way that America has always done: "what are we, a bunch of Russians!"

[–] yetiftw@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

did you miss the red scare? it's always been this way

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

You're moving out of golden age and into the 'find out' stage.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

We used to look down on Soviet propaganda and book burning; congratulating ourselves on our free speech.

pssst

those were lies too

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s

The more likely reason is that it's a social media company that the government currently has zero control over. Being owned by a (Taiwanese?) company the US can't ask them to track data and the CIA/FBI can't fill it with propaganda or whatever else they want.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Yes because nobody is talking about the Palestine/Israel situation on any other social media platforms. /s

But are they?

I know they are on Fediverse sites, but is it really being discussed on Twitter and Facebook?

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reddit, twitter, Facebook, Twitch, YouTube, tiktok and now Lemmy. I can't think of a single social media site I've used in the last year that didn't have people talking about Palestine in one way or another.

It's why I doubt the claim that the US government is specifically trying to ban tiktok because of the Palestine/Israel situation. They wanted TikTok gone before the October 7th 2023 attack.

I believe it's more likely a nation security issue being owned by a Chinese company than anything to do with Palestine whatsoever.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This just shows that you haven't been paying attention. Pro-palestine content is moderated off those platforms as "anti-semitic". Raise your hand below if reddit has banned you for being anti-zionist.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I've been paying attention. I could open any of those sites and find pro Palestine comments/post/content/profiles within 30 seconds.

I would be willing to bet you got banned from reddit for just being a regular old fashioned antisemite. You can call it "anit-zionist" or whatever you want, but that is still just being antisemitic with extra mental gymnastics.

Just because it's not the front page of every single website known to mankind doesn't mean pro Palestine content is being moderated off those platforms. More likely they are removing the many many pro Palestinian posts that also happen to also be antisemitic which is a lot of it.

And before you get mad at me I've been blaming the Jews for all my problems since I was a kid (jokingly) because of South Park. Technically I'm quoting Cartman and I don't actually mean any of it, but I do probably say "I blame the Jews" at least once a day.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

1 comment later, equating anti-zionism with anti-semitism.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.

But truthfully, there are some places (such as isolated bubbles on Facebook, I would expect) where people honestly believe that opposition to Israel is based on antisemitism, being unaware of the genocide.

[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

The /s at the end means he was being sarcastic.

Right, which leads me to believe that they are implying that people are talking about the Palestine / Israel situation on other platforms.

I don't go on FB often, but when I do I never see anything on there about Israel. I never go on Twitter, but from what I've heard any mention of genocide is met with accusations of antisemitism and the conversation is shut down.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's based in China, not Taiwan. (They are different countries, IMO.)

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[–] MidWestKhagan@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I maybe see it on threads but nothing on YouTube shorts. Like nothing whatsoever, reels is the only other place I see them. If you look at what has been popular especially what was popular in tags in December 2023, Free Palestine tags got hundreds of millions of views and likes while pro israeli tag got 2.5m. The Palestinian genocide js 100% why they’re banning it.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Real 'chicken or egg' vibes with that one

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