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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Headline in six months: Salesforce Hires Software Engineers After Realizing Middle Managers Don't Know How To Turn AI-Generated Code Into Actual Applications

Being a software engineer is a hell of a lot more than just the actual act of writing code.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Maybe if we'd put LLM powered puppets in the meetings with management so developers can just continue with their actual work we'd get a lot more done.

[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think that should be tried first. I really think Ai could replace them! (Especially CEOs)

[–] nightwatch_admin@feddit.nl 2 points 3 weeks ago

The cost savings will be immense, productivity and innovation will no longer be impaired by incapable self centred arseholes playing political games, … I can see that working.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

Knowing companies, they won't realise anything and will just make their existing employees pick up the slack

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Not before the 2025 headline Salesforce lays off 25% of software development staff.

[–] BruisedMoose@piefed.social 20 points 3 weeks ago

I'm a Salesforce admin. On a personal level I like it because it's kind of a mess and I can spend time on random crap. That's not to say that I think it's GOOD.

Last week I had some issue and decided to give Agentforce a chance before opening a case. It rephrased a standard help page I had already read. I rephrased my question with more detail. It rephrased the same help page again. I opened a case.

Turns out what I was seeing was a known issue. Support gave me a link to the page and a fix was already pending. So the bot that they are using for case deflection doesn't appear to search known issues at all. If you're trying to get everyone to buy into a product, your implementation of it should be strikingly good at what it's supposed to do.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Wut?

123 active Software Engineering jobs listed.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh they'll still fill positions it just means they're going to contract.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure that's not what he meant in the podcast.

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ll save you a click: AI bullshit.

[–] criss_cross@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Someone on HN said this is basically a cover for the fact that they've been in a hiring freeze since 2023.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42639417

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago

But he went on to say: “We’re not adding any more software engineers next year because we have increased the productivity this year with Agentforce and with other AI technology that we’re using for engineering teams by more than 30% – to the point where our engineering velocity is incredible. I can’t believe what we’re achieving in engineering.”

This announcement is just advertising for agentforce (their AI) they're likely not being serious about it.

[–] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

They don’t want to ruin their reputation by having functional software.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe some dude in his mothers basement will use A.I to develop a good replacement for salesforce.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 4 points 3 weeks ago (15 children)

Salesforce

I wish you the worst of luck, you are an awful company that makes finnicky garbage software. In my many years as an IT professional, I have never, at any point, heard anyone say anything positive about Salesforce, ever.

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago

^expensive ^finicky ^garbage

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Enterprise software is weeeeeeird. Salesforce, JIRA, Workday… these are terrible products by user standards. But they get purchased on other strengths, obviously. Compatibility with other shit software being high in the list. Configurability. Access control. Permissions roles. Some shit. I dunno. All I know is that every time we have to do something in Workday our HR department literally sends out a PowerPoint of step-by-step instructions on how to do it.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 1 points 3 weeks ago

It's all varying degrees of shitty, but Salesforce is a shit company. Not as bad as Oracle, but not good.

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[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Is it because they would be bankrupt by the end of the year?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 4 points 3 weeks ago

"Thousands of software engineers spared a living death. Film at 11."

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Awesome. Salesforce has always been shitty. I wonder how much this will accelerate their decline.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

!business@lemmy.world

[–] doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

We will have more salespeople next year because we really need to explain to people exactly the value that we can achieve with AI. So, we will probably add another 1,000 to 2,000 salespeople in the short term.

Well, good luck!

I can't wait for the AI bubble to burst. It's going to be hilarious to see these kinds of CEOs falling flat on their faces. Unfortunately, it will not be the CEOs who will suffer the most from the consequences.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I hope it bursts soon. It’s not creating any hiring activity, which is what we little people in the industry need. But it is disruptively shifting things around and stealing funding from everything else as companies panic to put forth some kind of trash so they aren’t seen as being “behind.”

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Lol that ain't happening. They are doing this for short term gain. Line mus go up and ceo terms are medium term perfect for overstimulating their stock value and cashing out as they leave. The next ceo will come in to a crash in stock value and hard cuts are the only option.

So in this case, it's good for devs as it's only happening now while its early. gtfo while you can!

Its also worth mentioning this could be most likely more simple. Its a distraction from a sign of real financial trouble

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 3 weeks ago

lol, one of our suppliers just changed to them 1.5 years ago.

Someone managed to fuck the portal software up so much that all the ö you type in a support case get replaced by o, both in the webview and the emails. The ä and ü work fine. It's extra fucked.

And our support team sits in Germany, we write in German sometimes. When we use English it is only for the benefit of their Tier 3 guys.

Plus the implementation of two factor sign in is now delayed by half a year already. It seems to me more developers could be helpful

[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago

Unless his close family member needs a job.

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