Alice along with her husband live at Chevithorne Barton, an estate in Devon, which houses the Plant Heritage National Oak collection.
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Thats real??
I had to look it up.... unfortunately. Coming from a Brit is crazy though, considering their whole history as a country.
What would make the British especially immune to having shitty upper classmen? They had a world-spanning empire and they still have an actual king.
No that was my point. Weird that they still clasp so tightly to class differences despite all the lessons they should have been learning from their entire history.
Well as pointed out elsewhere in this thread, this person is very much not working class.
Somehow.
They are afraid! Continue whatever is currently done makes them afraid. Finally they feel like the rest of us.
I read it as the reverse initially. Thought it was a classic Lemmy take for what looked like a newspaper article. Why- who- how could someone know about the culture war and the class war and draw this conclusion? (Ed: she doesn't know about the class war, see below)
Or maybe it's a bait title and the body makes a completely different point, that's probably the reason I'm looking at a picture of the title right now and not reading the whole article.
Edit: the article
Edit 2: It's actually a kinda muddled argument she's making. She's using "class war" not in the sense a marxist might use, but to describe something a populist party would do, which is turning public anger towards a specific demographic to justify their political actions. She doesn't want Labour to alienate the richer parts of its voter base by "bashing the most wealthy" or "punishing the rich". But she doesn't show that Labour would actually message it like that, just that they have plans that would tax wealthier people more, which seems perfectly Labour-like and not something they would need special messaging to justify. So if Labour wants to pivot away from a culture war and towards actual left-wing policy, that's not "starting a class war".
We should replace it with no war. A world that works for all.
I'm down to talk details with Bezos and Musk whenever they're around. 3's good for me.
That'd work great if the 1% actually felt empathy and had the ability/desire to put people's needs over that of investors. Oh well back to war.
Sorry, but for a just world, you need a class war. The rich & powerful need the system to oppress almost everyone on the planet so they can continue to profit. No class war would be great, but they are already fighting it, and we will never be free of it until we win.
Musk & Bezos, if you could ever get them in a room, would have no patience to hear you out. They are committed to the notion that they are special and you are a worthless peon because they have all of the money & power and you don't. They would rage at you for even suggesting a change that makes the peons less poor, because they don't think we "deserve" it. They think we need them to rule us.
They have to think this way, because it's the only way they can maintain their position and not be crushed by the guilt.
That's why it's a war.
There's always been a class war, what matters is if Labour is paying attention.
People are slowly waking up that "us vs them" includes a LOT of "us" as they learn who "them" are.
Alice Thomson can suck me fat cock.