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I am a Linux beginner/amateur and I have sort of had enough of copy and pasting commands I find on the internet without having a good understanding of how they actually work.

I guess my end goal is to be able to comfortably install and use arch Linux with my own customization's and be able to fix it when things go wrong.

What tips/ideas do you have for getting better at navigating the terminal, and getting a better understanding of how the os works. What is a good roadmap to follow? And how did you, advanced Linux user, get to the stage your at now?

Edit: my current distro is bazzite just in case you were interested and thanks for all the replies you are all really helpful.

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[–] nous@programming.dev 3 points 6 months ago

And how did you, advanced Linux user, get to the stage your at now?

Incrementally over time by reading the documentation and/or manuals of the commands I need to run and looking up how others solve the problems that I need to get other ideas about things (even, periodically, for things that I already know how to do to see if anyone has found a better way to do it or if a new tool has come out that helps). And trying things out/experimenting with different ways of doing things to find out what works well or not.

[–] Onihikage@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm late to the party but have you seen Linux Journey? https://linuxjourney.com/

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Thats really cool thanks.

[–] berryjam@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[–] electricyarn@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

When you are doing stuff in the terminal write it down somewhere else also, on a piece of real life paper or in a simple text document or whatever works for you.

In general I found taking notes while trying to do things in the terminal helped me learn.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I guess my end goal is to be able to comfortably install and use arch Linux with my own customization’s and be able to fix it when things go wrong.

Why? I have been using Linux for nearly two decades and I am perfectly content with a low-config distro and desktop environment. You don’t have to use Arch but if you insist get a Steam Deck.

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[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

My advice would be look up The Missing Semester it’s a free online MIT course on how to use the terminal and it will govern you a better understanding of how to use it and Linux more generally. Really helpful to find your way around and give you an intuitive sense of what you’re trying to achieve.

Then beyond that installing arch is easy with archinstall but it’s probably more helpful to learn about the components of desktop Linux and what they do so that you actually know what you’re doing.

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
  1. Learn FreeBSD.

  2. Learn Linux.

/s

[–] bishoponarope@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago
[–] BillibusMaximus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

I have sort of had enough of copy and pasting commands I find on the internet without having a good understanding of how they actually work.

One thing you could do is start trying to understand those commands.

Read the man pages or the documentation to figure out what the commands are actually doing. Once you have the "what" , you can dig deeper to get to the "why" if it isn't obvious by that point.

After enough of that, you'll go to copy/paste and already understand what it's doing without needing to look it up again.

Then from there, it's a matter of building the instinct to be able to say "I need to do X, so I'll use commands Y and Z."

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Attempt an Arch install entirely from memory. You might want to try this in a VM, in case something goes wrong, but just do it. If you can't quite remember what to do, man and ls /bin are your friends.

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry man I said I was a beginner I have never installed arch before that was more like an end goal I am not there yet I should have said i'm just running bazzite atm.

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Sure, maybe I was a little ambitious. But my point is mistakes can bring learning, so it might be worth it to try something "hard". Trying things in a virtual machine is also often a good idea.

With arch, I'd recommend just jumping in the deep and and installing it, looking things up on the wiki when something goes wrong. Just do it in a virtual machine or on an old laptop or something to start with. I broke my previous distro (mint) by doing some really stupid stuff, and I decided to just go fuck it and install arch. I don't think I've ever learned as much about linux as that weekend.

I suppose that I was already pretty comfortable with the terminal since I was studying computer science at the time so I had a lot of reason to use it. I think the best way to use the terminal is to force yourself to use it, programming is great for this but you can try e.g. sorting your photos or mp3 files or something as practice too.

[–] glans@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

Install TLDR pages from your package manager to get easy access to the most useful information

https://tldr.sh/

[–] PresidentCamacho@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

on the tailend of a convo in in a discord recently I added a command to the "customize chatgpt" section to allow chatgpt to have a custom "man" like command similar to linux, but that works for all code or commands.

This makes chatgpt give me a Linux command or code snippet formated in a table explaining what each piece of the command does.

when a prompt is givin beginning with the word man followed by code or commands please respond with a table following these rules and nothing else: skip title row, No backticks around command components, No unnecessary rows, column 1 should contain the command component, column 2 should contain a brief command description

[–] unrealapex@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

I'd recommend reading man pages. They're a great way to understand the programs that are on your system. The Arch Wiki and the Gentoo Wiki both provide additional information that may be of use to you.

[–] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Here is a bunch of random tips to become more comfortable with the terminal.

Do absolutely everything that you can on the terminal.

When you install something, enable the verbose if possible and snoop around the logs to see what is happening.

If an app or an install fails, look at the logs to see what is the issue, and try to fix it by actually resolving the error itself first instead of finding the commands on the internet to fix your issue.

Instead of googling for your command options, use the help menu from the application and try to figure out how to use the command from there.

[–] Spyder@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago
[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago

This course by the Linux Foundation goes over the basics and I thought it was pretty good. I was a long time user of Linux when I came across this and wanted to see how much I really knew. It's very easy to follow and well structured

https://training.linuxfoundation.org/training/introduction-to-linux/

[–] AnnaFrankfurter@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Switch to rolling distro, it will break so many things with each update you'll learn stuff by fixing it. Also you can check https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/

[–] pineapple@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I thought rolling releases were still pretty stable to things really break that often?

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