OP what do you think of Discovery?

I ask this because 9/10 times someone talks about how Star Trek was "always woke", they are usually just salty people don't like Discovery and trying to pretend that most people who criticized it were bigots.

The other 1/10 times it's someone who doesn't even watch Star Trek trying to hijack the sub to push a bunch of performative culture war nonsense. However that usually involves a Tumblr post implying the Klingons were socially progressive because of how Kor treated Jadzia Dax.

Bro, IDIC.

This is perfect. Thank you for this.

Im always rather disappointed with this claim as doh, star trek is woke, it always was and nobody has complained about that part.

When people complain about the woke part they complain about that star trek WAS woke and intelligent, yet now just pretends to be woke and hangs it like dangling keys in front of us to hide the fact that it's become so absolutely shit.

Seriously, every criticism I've seen about it (and also every criticism I've lobbed at it) always gets "rebuked" with "you just hate woke!"

No I don't no we don't. I'm love the progressivism of old trek. I hate nu trek because it's empty vapid drek that just tries to cram a much "woke" in there not to be woke but just to hide the smell of shit.

Nu trek is awful.

People have been raving about brave new worlds but those same people were raving about the mental anguish that is discovery and cringe Picard. I'm a huge star trek fan, been so for 30 years, but after Picard S3 I simply stopped. I watched trek at least once a week for decades, buy I haven't watched anything trek ever since Picard ended. That's how off putting Picard was as a show.l, it managed to ruin TNG for me.

I know this will be down voted and people will just continue to say I am anti woke, that I love trumpmor whatever, even though none of that comes close to reality but nu trek fans have been... Different? Star trek fans were actually progressive and trying to make the world a better place. Ever since nu trek its been "think like us or fuck off"

I'm so done with star trek. Long live the Orville!