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https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_$15_Minimum_Wage_Initiative_(2024)

$11.00 per hour by January 1, 2023

$12.00 per hour by January 1, 2024

$13.00 per hour by January 1, 2025

$14.00 per hour by January 1, 2026

$15.00 per hour by January 1, 2027

Living wage Wayne County (Detroit) 2 Adults, working, 2 kids $24.98/hr.

These idiots are freaking out over increasing tipped emoloyees to half the living wage. gui-better

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GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) — As state lawmakers are wrapping up work this year, every Republican member of the House of Representatives walked out during Friday’s session.

Republicans say Democrats are refusing to negotiate and talk about wages for tipped workers.

If nothing is done, the minimum wage for tipped workers will increase to $12 an hour on Feb. 21. Those against the increase are concerned that raising the minimum wage will mean less tips, fewer jobs and lower overall wages, while supporters say the change will reduce poverty.

State Rep. Bryan Posthumus, R-Cannon Township, said Democrats had no intention of having a conversation.

“We told (House) Speaker (Joe) Tate that if they want to have the conversation with regard to road funding, saving tipped workers jobs, then we are happy to have that conversation,” Posthumus said. “We’re right here, we’re ready to go.”

Meanwhile, Tate, D-Detroit, said on X: “House Democrats are here at the people’s house ready to do the people’s work. House Republicans? Well, they left the floor because they put politics over people.”


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[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 41 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

On a national level, if you take the GDP and divide it by hours worked (workforce times average labor hours per worker), you get about $72. 72 dollars per hour worked.

Anyone who says it's okay for a worker to receive less than half of this, let alone less than one sixth of it, should have a LOT of explaining to do.

If they think that the workers aren't so important, then why can't the economy be run without them?

[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This stat hits really hard, though I don't know if the average American would actually understand it.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

If you want to get mad, I've got more fun math right up my sleeve that lines right up with these numbers.

40% of the cost of everything is made up of wages. 60% is something else.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gdp is fake

Death to America

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I mean, yeah, to the extent that all money is fake and CEOs' wealth in stock portfolios is fake.

Read my other comment about imperial superprofits where I suggest ways to demystify the variation of it.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

$15.00 per hour by January 1, 2027

They're insulting us straight to our faces

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

MFW the federal minimum wage (and all wages) have been stagnant for the longest time and thanks to inflation and porky simply wanting more, workers in real terms have gotten a pay cut. Porky doesn’t deserve to complain, it’s like he physically cannot admit just how good he has it.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

12 years after Bernie’s campaign for $15/hr. 12 years of high inflation, no less

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

15 per hour in 2027 is a fucking joke tho and theyre still angry over it

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Like watching the spoiled brat throw a tantrum that even though they got a Lamborghini, it’s the wrong color.

It’s a month past the surest sign the GOP has entered a new golden age and they’re upset about THIS? Just put it up for a vote, and Americans will be happy to vote it the state minimum wage down to 0.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We shouldn't have a gop anymore. A lot of Democrats are bad too, but the GOP is just the worst. Not even a stopped clock that's right sometimes. They're like a crazy clock that purposely always tells the wrong time.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

any which way, it's only rich vs poor, doesn't matter which party

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 year ago

Well yes, but there are degrees. Like there's an important difference between a room that's 40f and 130f. If I have to sleep in one I'd rather the former, even if neither are good.

Longer term we need to deal with the structural problems.

New campaign idea: $45/hr minimum wage.