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back in my map era, we're ukrainemaxxing right now


Declarations of the imminent doom of Ukraine are a news megathread specialty, and this is not what I am doing here - mostly because I'm convinced that whenever we do so, the war extends another three months to spite us. Ukraine has been in an essentially apocalyptic crisis for over a year now after the failure of the 2023 counteroffensive, unable to make any substantial progress and resigned to merely being a persistent nuisance (and arms market!) as NATO fights to the last Ukrainian. In this context, predicting a terminal point is difficult, as things seem to always be going so badly that it's hard to understand how and why they fight on. In every way, Ukraine is a truly shattered country, barely held together by the sheer combined force of Western hegemony. And that hegemony is weakening.

I therefore won't be giving any predictions of a timeframe for a Ukrainian defeat, but the coming presidency of Trump is a big question mark for the conflict. Trump has talked about how he wishes for the war to end and for a deal to be made with Putin, but Trump also tends to change his mind on an issue at least three or four times before actually making a decision, simply adopting the position of who talked to him last. And, of course, his ability to end the war might be curtailed by a military-industrial complex (and various intelligence agencies) that want to keep the money flowing.

The alignment of the US election with the accelerating rate of Russian gains is pretty interesting, with talk of both escalation and de-escalation coinciding - the former from Biden, and the latter from Trump. Russia very recently performed perhaps the single largest aerial attack of Ukraine of the entire war, striking targets across the whole country with missiles and drones from various platforms. In response, the US is talking about allowing Ukraine to hit long-range targets in Russia (but the strategic value of this, at this point, seems pretty minimal).

Additionally, Russia has made genuine progress in terms of land acquisition. We aren't talking about endless and meaningless battles over empty fields anymore. Some of the big Ukrainian strongholds that we've been spending the last couple years speculating over - Chasiv Yar, Kupiansk, Orikhiv - are now being approached and entered by Russian forces. The map is actually changing now, though it's hard to tell as Ukraine is so goddamn big.

Attrition has finally paid off for Russia. An entire generation of Ukrainians has been fed into the meat grinder. Recovery will take, at minimum, decades - more realistically, the country might be permanently ruined, until that global communist revolution comes around at least. And they could have just made a fucking deal a month into the war.


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Israel-Palestine Conflict

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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

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English-language twitter account that collates news.
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English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/11/18/bangladesh-ex-ministers-face-massacre-charges-hasina-probe-deadline-set

Bangladesh ex-ministers face ‘massacre’ charges, Hasina probe deadline set


This is a fucking kangaroo court, I do not think Hasina and her Government was great, but they are not in any way guilty of genocide.

“They are complicit in enabling massacres by participating in planning, inciting violence, ordering law enforcement officers to shoot on sight, and obstructing efforts to prevent a genocide.”

Yea i wonder what Yunus' military and police would do if a similar revolt takes place now. They continue with devaluing the term genocide.

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

My Zalengam musing seems to hold true.

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Yeah Bangladesh is going full Islamic Theocracy mode now. Hasina sucked but deserves credit for making Bangladesh more than a backwater country with nothing to offer.

this is democracy manifest

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

They killed some protestors which is genocide apparently even though there were zero threats towards any minorities.

Unless you consider Pakistan collaborators to be a minority.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 19 hours ago

I see... though, by the context of it, "razakars" seem more generally synonymous with "traitors" rather than just "collaborator traitors"

[-] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago

Just enjoy the purge

[-] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago
[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

In coming coup in 3..2..1. Joke aside, Senegal is part of the axis of countries along with Ivory Coast and Cameroon, which France uses to exert influence into western africa.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

Former President Macky Sall, who leads an opposition grouping from abroad called Takku Wallu Senegal, claimed the vote was marred by "massive fraud organised by Pastef", but without providing details.

coping and seething from guaido , west african style

Death to America

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

https://www.axios.com/2024/11/17/biden-ukraine-russia-missiles-north-korea-response

  1. Only ATACMS have been allowed for use.

  2. They are only allowed for use in the Kursk region.

If this is the case, there won't be an escalation. This is entirely about preventing Russia from taking back the region before negotiations. The primary focus of Ukraine right now is to hold out until then.

[-] Tervell@hexbear.net 44 points 1 day ago

Also, do the Ukrainians even have any ATACMS left at this point?

https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/ukrainian-army-used-nearly-all-atacms-missiles-1726014379.html

An anonymous US official told CNN that the US has supplied Ukraine with several hundred ATACMS missile systems and that Ukraine has used most of them. The official noted that the US has a limited stockpile of missile systems that can be provided to Ukraine without compromising its military readiness.

I wasn't able to find another source in a cursory search, but have they even been doing any ATACMS strikes lately?

And even if they had the missiles, how many vehicles do they actually have left that could launch them, and what's the chance of those vehicles getting close to the frontline (where they would need to be in order to actually meaningfully strike into Russian territory, the "long-range" here is very relative, these aren't ICBMs) without getting taken out by the Russians (a whole bunch of artillery systems were lost in the Kursk offensive precisely because they had to be moved closer to the front in order to perform their strikes)

This whole thing seems symbolic, just the US going "feel free to use these weapons you don't even have jack biden-troll"

[-] geikei@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago

They used ATACMS saturation attacks on S300s and S400s. They were also used on more targets than just GBAD. They used an unknown amount targeting command assets and radars in Crimea, as well as some training grounds in various parts of Ukraine which resulted in likely hundreds of casualties. They number of ATACMS strikes has been prob ~20 +/- 5. And the Salvo size is 4-12 missiles for each strickes. I'd guess they have used ~200

[-] kittin@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

Maybe it’s to force Trump to have to rescind the authorization or to give cover to the British and Fr*nch to use theirs

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Some real SEO brainworms in that url slug vs the article jfc

[-] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago

Trump's FCC pick Brendan Carr posted this

https://xcancel.com/BrendanCarrFCC/status/1857419658812440927

leading to me desperately needing to post this:

fact chucking kelly

[-] ziggurter@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

NewsGuard has consistently rated official propaganda from the Communist Party of China as more credible than American publications.

LOL doubt

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

Our intrepid publications

Their nefarious propaganda

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago

Dismantling the tech censorship cartel in order to reinstate the…traditional media corporations censorship cartel lol

[-] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 46 points 1 day ago

Extremely funny that Republican brainworms have become so advanced that right after a massive realignment of Tech people from Democrats to Republicans, they still end up coming down hard on the tech firms.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

mfw the rubes are in charge. inevitable result of such an aggressively anti-competence society as we have in yankkkeeland

Death to America

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Less moderation is labor saving 🧠

[-] Parzivus@hexbear.net 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So the Dutch government coalition almost collapsed because of the Israeli hooligans? lmfao
Also first

[-] Beetle@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Context: https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2024/11/16/dutch-coalition-averts-collapse-after-finance-secretary-quits-over-racist-remarks

Secretary of finance resigned due to racist remarks that were said by another minister during a meeting related to the hooligan violence. Cabinet dealt with it by saying no racist remarks were made (her own party is basically letting her go and acting like she’s overreacting to save the coalition).

[-] miz@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

she resigned because she HEARD racist remarks, not said them

Moroccan-born Nora Achahbar of the centrist New Social Contract party said she had heard racist comments in cabinet about immigrants after Israeli fans were assaulted following a soccer game in Amsterdam.

[-] Beetle@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Oh good point, I didn’t realise my summary could be read the complete opposite way 😅

[-] Stylistillusional@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

If there's one thing this coalition isn't going to collapse over, it's being too racist.

[-] Lemister@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

German and now the dutch government collapsing, just as biden leaves? And its the finance minister both times? talk about puppet states.

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

Because of infighting as a response or something?

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[-] newmou@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

Mapmaxxxing baby

[-] red_stapler@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago

I guess france-cool is sending ukkkraine Mirage 2000s now? I haven’t heard a single thing about F16s since that one crashed early on.

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The F-16s were always a gimmick. They're easily outmatched by modern Russian aircraft (in the numbers Ukraine was given) and take ages to train on since Ukrainian pilots are used to Soviet aircraft.

Even without hypothetical air-to-air combat (which is a distant memory in this war) even the S-200 system is capable of taking down an F-16 so the more modern systems are more than a threat.

Their usefulness was mainly as a carrier for the "deep strike" missiles (Storm shadow) in order to give them decent range, but that was quickly shuttled after Russian Kinzhals started meticulously hunting down any F-16s they could find on the ground.

EDIT: Wikipedia claims 9 are combat ready

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago

My prediction: trump is gonna continue status quo on arming Ukraine. When defeat is imminent, he will ask putin to wait to finish the job soon after trumps term ends

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 30 points 1 day ago

Yooo we have the map back

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

restrictions on long range weaponsin Ukraine being lifted is something..

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