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[–] macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de 105 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh it will as soon as the investors demand more ReTurN oN iNvEsTmEnT.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Then we leave that platform too. I have zero loyalty. Zero.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 11 points 4 days ago

I only have it because my family chose that over Mastodon. Mastodon is better.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s a Public Benefit Corp structure, so legally investors have very little power.

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[–] frobscottle_lemmyworld@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

"Bluesky has not been offered enough money to scrape user data for AI"

[–] Naich@lemmings.world 58 points 4 days ago (2 children)
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[–] Exec@pawb.social 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Well, it will train it's AI on everyone else's posts. Just not your posts.

[–] staticsoar@sh.itjust.works 38 points 4 days ago

Won't train AI on your posts ~~until we reach critical mass of users~~.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"Well, WE won't train on your data. But this subsidiary company we created on the other hand..."

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or one of our 12675 carefully selected partners

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[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They also said it was decentralized which is not true.

I don't believe this.

well there's a protocol but everyone is on the main one, i don't think theres even a non personal instance.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 32 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sounds exactly like something that someone intending to train an AI would say.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Does it?

OK, what would they say if they weren't planning on it?

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[–] Davel23@fedia.io 28 points 4 days ago

BlueskAI on the other hand...

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If the AT protocol allows public access to content, they can’t create a proprietary training set. But the content is available for anyone who wants to add it to a public training set.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Bluesky is VC backed. They'll want to make money down the road, and they'll definitely train AI soon if not already.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe the VC's are dying soon and they wanted to do something useful with their exorbitant wealth before they die

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 21 points 4 days ago

Trust me bro, just keep shit posing on here, we won't change out "ToS"

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Absolutely. I worked somewhere where we routinely had alarms go off due to botnets swarming us with weird (and obnoxious) massive download tactics (of publicly available user generated content, that is).

If it can be gotten by anyone, it will be gotten by LLM trainers.

[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

To be fair, "they" could probably train AI on Lemmy data, they just won't ask for permission and won't be charged for it

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Better BlueSky than Twitter, but I hope everyone understands by now that there’s literally no reason to take a business’s word for anything unless they somehow have legally obligated themselves to doing that thing forever. Otherwise you can only trust them to keep doing it for as long as it’s worth it from an economic perspective. I’m not saying that it can’t ever happen that a business acts out of pure goodwill, but only a fool would count on it.

[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

I've yet to hear a good argument for why it matters even if they did. I've made thousands of comments on Lemmy that are free for anyone to grab and do anything they want with. If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Why is this taking off but not Mastadon?

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 10 points 3 days ago

It's easier to use and has a recommendation algorithm.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] mke@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Which marketing and better how, exactly?

Can anyone please point me an example of Bluesky marketing that isn't word of mouth or large-event headlines on the news?

[–] Woovie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

no, this place only circle jerks about the fediverse blindly and hates anything with a modicum of attachment to reality.

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Barrier of entry is marginally lower. With mastodon you'll have to make a decision on what instance you're creating your account. With Bluesky there's just Bluesky.

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yep. 100% this.

Bluesky has the hyper casual "barrier'" of entry that Twitter had

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

With bluesky ,the sign up has a section where you choose a server. The bluesky server is prefilled. Otherwise you add your own.

But not having that default option and instead having to have the user go research and figure out which server to use is an immediate turn off.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

Lol okay. Sounds good, bro.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 days ago (14 children)
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 days ago

"Don't be evil" ...

... for now

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[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 6 points 3 days ago

But did they pinky promise?

[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago
[–] obinice@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Why not? Are my posts not good enough for you Mr Bluesky?

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

... for now

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Who owns this? Another insane rich, right wing techie?

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