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[–] macstainless@discuss.tchncs.de 125 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh it will as soon as the investors demand more ReTurN oN iNvEsTmEnT.

[–] errer@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then we leave that platform too. I have zero loyalty. Zero.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago

I only have it because my family chose that over Mastodon. Mastodon is better.

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[–] Naich@lemmings.world 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Well, WE won't train on your data. But this subsidiary company we created on the other hand..."

[–] Badeendje@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or one of our 12675 carefully selected partners

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[–] staticsoar@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 year ago

Won't train AI on your posts ~~until we reach critical mass of users~~.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sounds exactly like something that someone intending to train an AI would say.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Does it?

OK, what would they say if they weren't planning on it?

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[–] frobscottle_lemmyworld@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] HeartyOfGlass@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

"Bluesky has not been offered enough money to scrape user data for AI"

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 33 points 1 year ago

BlueskAI on the other hand...

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If the AT protocol allows public access to content, they can’t create a proprietary training set. But the content is available for anyone who wants to add it to a public training set.

[–] Exec@pawb.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

To be fair, "they" could probably train AI on Lemmy data, they just won't ask for permission and won't be charged for it

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

AI is 100% being trained using Lemmy.

[–] Kekzkrieger@feddit.org 22 points 1 year ago
[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 22 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I remember when Reddit promised similar things...

[–] sircac@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

…at the moment

[–] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They also said it was decentralized which is not true.

I don't believe this.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

well there's a protocol but everyone is on the main one, i don't think theres even a non personal instance.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I looked into it and the backend is proprietary, so the central owner can restrict features. Like for instance independent instances can only have 10 users.

It's "decentralised" except only in extremely limited scope, the code is centrally controlled and the network remains largely, functionally centralised.

They're capitalising on the decentralised, federated buzz while doing it so poorly they're setting up users to say "oh people tried decentralisation, it doesn't work, look at Bluesky".

If it's not open source, it's not decentralised.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bluesky is VC backed. They'll want to make money down the road, and they'll definitely train AI soon if not already.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe the VC's are dying soon and they wanted to do something useful with their exorbitant wealth before they die

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago
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[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's open to the public. So, many other orgs are certainly doing it anyway.

[–] marx2k@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The same can be said of lemmy, mastodon or any publically accessible forum

[–] recapitated@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Absolutely. I worked somewhere where we routinely had alarms go off due to botnets swarming us with weird (and obnoxious) massive download tactics (of publicly available user generated content, that is).

If it can be gotten by anyone, it will be gotten by LLM trainers.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 1 year ago

Can I get that written in a contract?

[–] bloup@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Better BlueSky than Twitter, but I hope everyone understands by now that there’s literally no reason to take a business’s word for anything unless they somehow have legally obligated themselves to doing that thing forever. Otherwise you can only trust them to keep doing it for as long as it’s worth it from an economic perspective. I’m not saying that it can’t ever happen that a business acts out of pure goodwill, but only a fool would count on it.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Nah, first you gotta get comfortable for a couple of years.

It's basically pig butchering for social networks.

[–] zquestz@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The API is so cheap someone is going to do it anyways...

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

"Don't be evil" ...

... for now

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[–] Free_Opinions@feddit.uk 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I've yet to hear a good argument for why it matters even if they did. I've made thousands of comments on Lemmy that are free for anyone to grab and do anything they want with. If I didn't want people to have access to them I wouldn't be posting on the first place.

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[–] NeilBru@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago
[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 7 points 1 year ago

But did they pinky promise?

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Why is this taking off but not Mastadon?

[–] 0xD@infosec.pub 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's easier to use and has a recommendation algorithm.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mke@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which marketing and better how, exactly?

Can anyone please point me an example of Bluesky marketing that isn't word of mouth or large-event headlines on the news?

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[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Barrier of entry is marginally lower. With mastodon you'll have to make a decision on what instance you're creating your account. With Bluesky there's just Bluesky.

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[–] obinice@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Why not? Are my posts not good enough for you Mr Bluesky?

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